First Oil Leak
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First Oil Leak
21,011 miles and I just saw the first drop of oil on the garage floor from my bike (2011 Limited). So I start searching for the source. The bottom of the crankcase is covered as is the joint between the primary case and crankcase in the front. I follow the oil looking for the most forward and highest point that I can find. Bingo. It looks like the rubber seal where the stator wires go through the crankcase.
So now I assess my options:
1) Take it to the dealer to have it fixed under warranty. (Note: This is the least desirable of my options).
2) Remove the primary case and stator. Inspect and replace parts as required. (This is the next least desirable option).
3) Clean the area thoroughly and apply a bead of RTV (silicone) around the stator grommet. (Yeah! Now we're talking!)
So... Option 3 it was. Took about an hour. I'll let it cure overnight and give it a test in the morning, but I'm sure it's going to be fine.
In trying to determine the cause of the leak, I noticed that the wires are zip-tied to the frame. As the engine is running and moving/vibrating in the engine mounts and the wires being "fixed" to the frame, the grommet and orings sealing the stator wires through the crankcase are constantly being stressed by the engine vibrations and the relative movement between the stator grommet and the zip-tie . I believe that is the root cause.
There are two fixes I could see. First, make sure there is as much slack as possible between the stator grommet and the zip-tie. This will provide for the most flexibility in the wires thereby minimizing the stresses on the grommet. The second fix which I did since I already had the RTV out, was to fill the cavity between the engine crakcase and the stator grommet with RTV. This will minimize any relative movement between the stator grommet and the engine by bonding them together, again reducing any stresses on the grommet.
We'll see how this works... Time will tell.
So now I assess my options:
1) Take it to the dealer to have it fixed under warranty. (Note: This is the least desirable of my options).
2) Remove the primary case and stator. Inspect and replace parts as required. (This is the next least desirable option).
3) Clean the area thoroughly and apply a bead of RTV (silicone) around the stator grommet. (Yeah! Now we're talking!)
So... Option 3 it was. Took about an hour. I'll let it cure overnight and give it a test in the morning, but I'm sure it's going to be fine.
In trying to determine the cause of the leak, I noticed that the wires are zip-tied to the frame. As the engine is running and moving/vibrating in the engine mounts and the wires being "fixed" to the frame, the grommet and orings sealing the stator wires through the crankcase are constantly being stressed by the engine vibrations and the relative movement between the stator grommet and the zip-tie . I believe that is the root cause.
There are two fixes I could see. First, make sure there is as much slack as possible between the stator grommet and the zip-tie. This will provide for the most flexibility in the wires thereby minimizing the stresses on the grommet. The second fix which I did since I already had the RTV out, was to fill the cavity between the engine crakcase and the stator grommet with RTV. This will minimize any relative movement between the stator grommet and the engine by bonding them together, again reducing any stresses on the grommet.
We'll see how this works... Time will tell.
Last edited by 2black1s; 01-02-2012 at 10:53 PM.
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Bizio (12-04-2018)
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I'll try to draw a sketch, scan it, and post it here to help visualize what I'm talking about. Give me a few minutes...
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Bizio (12-04-2018)
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The grommet is correctly positioned in the crankcase. There is also a stress relief for the wires molded in as part of the grommet. That stress relief extends outward approximately 3/4". The space between the engine crankcase and the stress relief for the wires is the cavity I'm referring to.
I'll try to draw a sketch, scan it, and post it here to help visualize what I'm talking about. Give me a few minutes...
I'll try to draw a sketch, scan it, and post it here to help visualize what I'm talking about. Give me a few minutes...
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Puttnutt24 (03-30-2020)
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Mine looks pretty close to what you have here. I think I was thrown off by cavity thinking of a recess like my Shovel has. To me this would be a gap between the mount and plug harness. I do not have a wire tie within 6 inches of my plug and a nice loop prior to going straight back and through the case. Plug seems solid and dry.
BTW thanks for finding my oil leak at the filter while I was looking. Change due in 1.5K so it will wait.
BTW thanks for finding my oil leak at the filter while I was looking. Change due in 1.5K so it will wait.
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You'd need a lot better camera than mine... It's really buried in there, in a mass of black, and it would be hard to distinguish anything in a photo that I could take. That's the reason I made the sketch.