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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Lonewolf,
since you are the known expert...which tuner do you like the best? I'm thinking I really don't really want to add one to the bike but would rathe reflash with one.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf176
No it wasn't mine. Here is before and after. I will also show another that is the difference between a download vs a tune. These sheets only show wot. The big difference is how much better the bike runs where you actually ride it. Anyone that has never ridden a properly tuned bike doesn't know what they are missing.
So the 2nd chart is a stage 1 bike with HD download vs the exact same bike on the same day on the same dyno with a tuner and dyno tuning by you? If that's the case, wow. Should put the download lovers to rest... Which tuner?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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[quote=Lonewolf176;9251320]No it wasn't mine. Here is before and after. I will also show another that is the difference between a download vs a tune. These sheets only show wot. The big difference is how much better the bike runs where you actually ride it. Anyone that has never ridden a properly tuned bike doesn't know what they are missing.[/quote

How many People ride WOT all the time. I'm not saying a Tuner and dyno won't get you more performance, but how much is more important to some than other's. I've been that route before and don't want to again. If getting to the grocery store a few seconds faster is what you want then spend 3 to 1000.00 for a Tuner and another 5 to 600.00 for a Dyno. Then spend all your time fighting it to keep it that way. I'd rather run mine stock and not worry with it. JMO
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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I just purchased the SEST and am having my bike dyno'd next week. I had a pair of V&H BSS and a SE Heavy Breather put on recently. This is some good info.

Hope you all don't mind a Softail following along in here...
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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considering Lonewolf was trained by the best and Doc perfers tts i would venture to bet I know what he likes best lol. I am hoping to have him tune mine one of these days.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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[QUOTE=Ronp42;9251392]
Originally Posted by Lonewolf176
No it wasn't mine. Here is before and after. I will also show another that is the difference between a download vs a tune. These sheets only show wot. The big difference is how much better the bike runs where you actually ride it. Anyone that has never ridden a properly tuned bike doesn't know what they are missing.[/quote

How many People ride WOT all the time. I'm not saying a Tuner and dyno won't get you more performance, but how much is more important to some than other's. I've been that route before and don't want to again. If getting to the grocery store a few seconds faster is what you want then spend 3 to 1000.00 for a Tuner and another 5 to 600.00 for a Dyno. Then spend all your time fighting it to keep it that way. I'd rather run mine stock and not worry with it. JMO
Think you're missing the point. Dyno charts only show wot runs but a good dyno tune gives improvements everywhere.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by davewear
Think you're missing the point. Dyno charts only show wot runs but a good dyno tune gives improvements everywhere.
He is. People need to forget dyno charts for a moment and think about rideability. There's no comparison between a stock bike and a tuned one, but people will continue to think that there's a simple solution to getting their bike right.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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[quote=davewear;9251420]
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Think you're missing the point. Dyno charts only show wot runs but a good dyno tune gives improvements everywhere.
I think that's what I said! Read the post again.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by '05Train
He is. People need to forget dyno charts for a moment and think about rideability. There's no comparison between a stock bike and a tuned one, but people will continue to think that there's a simple solution to getting their bike right.
You guy's are missing the point I'm trying to make. You can buy a stock bike and leave it that way. It will run and ride fine. If you want more, you have to spend money for it. Some do, some don't! If I had it to do over, I would leave it completely stock, buy an extended warranty with the extra money and just ride the **** out of it. JMO
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronp42

How many People ride WOT all the time. I'm not saying a Tuner and dyno won't get you more performance, but how much is more important to some than other's. I've been that route before and don't want to again. If getting to the grocery store a few seconds faster is what you want then spend 3 to 1000.00 for a Tuner and another 5 to 600.00 for a Dyno. Then spend all your time fighting it to keep it that way. I'd rather run mine stock and not worry with it. JMO
I think you're totally missing the point of a tune. Just because the dyno sheet only shows wide open doesn't mean that's all you get for the tune. A proper tune tunes all the ranges of the bike, from idle to wide open and everywhere in between.
 
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