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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ShadoHawg
2007 FLHX with:
  • Bagger Brace
  • Custom Cycle Engineering Triple Tree Pinch Top Bolt Plate
  • Progressive Mono-Tubes front/940 rear shocks
  • Both tires under 500 miles properly inflated
Thanks for the explanation...please add me to your PM list....still experiencing a wobble in long sweepers at 50-60 mph........

Did you notice any benefit at all from the top triple clamp?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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76K on my 05 ... no wobble yet.

How long do the original mounts last anyway?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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Thanks for the great write up.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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That's the weave we're referring to for sure in that video. I know its hard to tell in the but you can see the handle bars swaying back and forth in some clips. Couple of times the rear tire skids slightly. If that was rear steering from flex then the tire would rub the fender on the sides. I know on my bike, which is the 06 FLTR, I installed a 160 rear tire which only allows about 1/4" of clearance at some points from the fender and it never rubs anything. If I was getting .030"? flex at the swingarm axle then it would be quite a bit all the way to the rear of the tire. All of that swaying is caused by the triple tree design. If you want it to handle high speed cornering you need to change the geometry up front. The fork tubes and neck need to be in a straight line of one another then the rake and trail corrected from that point but harley reversed them to make the bike easy to handle at slow speeds.
 

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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by trout31
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If that is true; and I'm not saying it isn't; then stiff armed riders with the add-on braces should still be wobbling. Have not heard report of any braced bikes continuing to wobble. Any like that out there??
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They still do it. In this thread alone there are people saying their bike still weaves after installing a brace.
I'm not saying the brace isn't a good idea but it's not the fix. There just isn't enough movement at the swing arm to cause that problem. This is referring to a bike in good mechanical condition.

I mention the FXR because it is basically the same frame. Only thing really different is the neck and triple tree and people still to this day say the FXR was the best handling bike harley built.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadoHawg
2007 FLHX with:
  • Bagger Brace
  • Custom Cycle Engineering Triple Tree Pinch Top Bolt Plate
  • Progressive Mono-Tubes front/940 rear shocks
  • Both tires under 500 miles properly inflated
Thanks for the explanation...please add me to your PM list....still experiencing a wobble in long sweepers at 50-60 mph........
Originally Posted by justastreetglide
Did you notice any benefit at all from the top triple clamp?
Curious on that as well, especially since the company is local to me.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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I had that happen on my 2009 Buell XB12 once.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 06roadglide
I'm not saying the brace isn't a good idea but it's not the fix. There just isn't enough movement at the swing arm to cause that problem.
That is plain wrong! Kindly go back and read #1.

I mention the FXR because it is basically the same frame. Only thing really different is the neck and triple tree and people still to this day say the FXR was the best handling bike harley built.
The FXR frame is similar in concept and uses the same rubber mount system as early touring bikes, but the bike is lighter and both the Assembly and frame are shorter. So the 'wobble' on these bikes will occur in quite different circumstances.

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet, so kindly share in engineering terms the basis of your thesis.
 
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