Power Commander V
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You're joking right? The friction zone is a viable tool used by anyone that wants to be a good rider. My motor cop friends rely on the principle on a daily basis and I know of no "clutch frys" on any of their bikes. The advance courses they offer in our area stress the use of the friction zone.
This control method is taught in all the advanced riding courses that I know of including "Ride Like A Pro", a video dedicated to rider improvement created by a world class motor officer. I don't know any really good riders that don't apply this pratice.
The motor officers in this area hate the fly by wire throttles on the newer bikes because they are erratic. The tuner took care of a lot of that.
Bill
This control method is taught in all the advanced riding courses that I know of including "Ride Like A Pro", a video dedicated to rider improvement created by a world class motor officer. I don't know any really good riders that don't apply this pratice.
The motor officers in this area hate the fly by wire throttles on the newer bikes because they are erratic. The tuner took care of a lot of that.
Bill
You are right, every good rider uses the friction zone. But so does every not-so-good rider. You can't take off from a standstill without using the friction zone (in normal conditions) so everyone uses the friction zone to some extent.
The notion of "practicing" the friction zone is what seems so peculiar to me. While clutch operation may vary some from bike-to-bike, five minutes on any new (different) bike and you should have the friction zone down pat.
My philosophy for clutch operation is to spend the absolute minimum of time necessary in the friction zone - in or out - to the greatest extent possible, thereby promoting maximum clutch life, so practicing the friction zone is not on my agenda. I don't practice walking either but I seem to do just fine.
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I am talking about actually being able to effectively use the friction zone with a throttle response that works when I said praticing the friction zone, however I do pratice also. U turns in one lane of traffic, keyhole manuevers, figure eights, panic stops(you probably think this is hard on brakes). No one that I know of keeps these skills sharp without pratice. The Motor Officers pratice such moves all the time.
Just about anyone can get on a motorcycle and make it go. If you consider that the friction zone then okay. Good riders can make one go in a very controlled manner and that requires pratice if you want to be good, just like any other endeavor. Take a look at "Ride Like A Pro" to understand where I am coming from.
You are praticing walking every time you walk, maybe that's why you are good at it. If you are not praticing good riding tecnique including the friction zone you might just get a little rusty.
Bill
Just about anyone can get on a motorcycle and make it go. If you consider that the friction zone then okay. Good riders can make one go in a very controlled manner and that requires pratice if you want to be good, just like any other endeavor. Take a look at "Ride Like A Pro" to understand where I am coming from.
You are praticing walking every time you walk, maybe that's why you are good at it. If you are not praticing good riding tecnique including the friction zone you might just get a little rusty.
Bill
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This is a rumor I had heard and I am wonderring if anyone else had heard it....At the time Dynojet was marketing the Power Commander III USB, Harley was marketing their Race Tuner which was not received well by the public as most thought the USB III was a better choice. Both were open loop at that time so before the O2 sensors.
Rumor was the moor company purchase some rights for technology from Dynojet for their system.../anyone else hear that rumor?
Did HArley purchase
Rumor was the moor company purchase some rights for technology from Dynojet for their system.../anyone else hear that rumor?
Did HArley purchase
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Got my PC-V yesterday and installed it on my Street Glide. I'm impressed with the map loaded. No popping on decel and the idle is a lot smoother than stock. The throttle response appears to be quicker too. The test is still out on fuel usage. For 200 bucks....I'm happy.
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