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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Whodattom
Not sure if folks are aware but all jammers (cell phone, radar, laser) are illegal in all 50 states. If you are caught with one it is a felony. Movie theaters have been trying for years to be allowed to use jammers and are denied every time. Is it really worth the risk just to get somewhere 15 minutes faster?

Oh and to only larger cities having laser cops. Nahhh, I live in Florida and our MC cops use Laser (both city and county).
Trying to stay clear of this discussion, but I have to inform you that although you are correct about cell phone and radar jammers (if active jamming, passive radar jammers are not illegal although they do not work) being illegal, LASER jammers ARE NOT illegal in most states. Laser jammers are illegal in a few states such as Nebraska, Minnesota, Utah, California, Oklahoma, Virginia, Colorado, Illinois and Washington DC., maybe a few more but these are the ones I know of.

Since I did post, I will reply to the OP, I have used radar detectors in cages for years, and will tell you that they are wonderful tools if you know how to use them. If a person knows the limitations of the unit and how radar/laser works then they are useful. If a person has a detector or jammer and has false beliefs as to how it works and it's capabilities , then they should save their money and not own one. Myself, I own four of the 9500ix models that one of the other posters talked about, and can tell you that they are the best available.
 

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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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A few years ago I was considering an active jammer. B/c they are illegal in all 50 states the advice was once your radar dectector goes off, slow down quickly, and turn the jammer off, so you register at a legal speed and the cop can't tell for sure you were using a jammer.

Can any officers comment on that? I understand active jammers are illegal with high fines but how does an officer actually CATCH someone using an active jammer?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 01:38 AM
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Sorry, but no they don't, at least not here in the south. Only the largest police departments utilize lasers. It's been my experience that most everyone still utilizes K, Ka, or X band units here in the southeast.
True!

Originally Posted by MontyCop05
They don't really work. They can actually work against you. Commercially available radar "jammers" are mostly passive systems and don't really do anything besides warn you that radar is present. Active jammers, if made well, with quality parts, CAN work, and when they do, they can actually make the receiving unit, and the cop behind it see a HIGHER speed than your actually traveling. Not to mention, real Active radar jammers are insanely expensive, and HIGHLY illegal. Its a felony if caught in possession of one. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulates the frequencies used by radar guns. It is a federal offence to broadcast using an unlicensed device on all police radar frequencies. The penalty can be $50,000 and/or five years in prison. Do you really think the FCC will approve a license to a radar jammer? Nope...not for Joe Citizen anyway...
True again!

28 years as a Trooper working Highway Patrol (that is a friggin' radar cop folks!) and people still won't believe what I tell them about radar detectors, including some in my own family, so I don't even try anymore. Sooooooooooooo
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 01:44 AM
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28 years as a Trooper working Highway Patrol (that is a friggin' radar cop folks!)
Ever bust someone using an active jammer? Ever heard of anyone being busted with an active jammer?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Copyless
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Since I did post, I will reply to the OP, I have used radar detectors in cages for years, and will tell you that they are wonderful tools if you know how to use them. If a person knows the limitations of the unit and how radar/laser works then they are useful. If a person has a detector or jammer and has false beliefs as to how it works and it's capabilities , then they should save their money and not own one. Myself, I own four of the 9500ix models that one of the other posters talked about, and can tell you that they are the best available.
I saw this after my other post, but you are right. Sadly most people don't know how to use them. We generally don't write warnings to people with radar detectors, and yes it is obvious if we are clocking your vehicle if you have one, whether you hide it before getting stopped or not.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dew Me
Ever bust someone using an active jammer? Ever heard of anyone being busted with an active jammer?
Nope. Seen a few vehicles that I thought had them though, but didn't pursue the issue. Didn't want to do the paper work. It is a federal crime not a state crime. It was easier to just wait a few seconds and stop the next speeder!
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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Maybe drive the speed limit or no more than 5 over. That would save everyone a lot of time and money. I actually thought the days of radar detectors and such was over kinda like the CB radio. Never been in that big of a hurry I guess but it does seem a lot of people are late for something.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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Understand and no offense taken Dawg. I respect you and the help you have provided many of us over the years. Thank you.

It's always funny though how when you try to answer the OP's question, you get all of these ancillary opinions and comments that are not relevant to the original question. It use to really bother me, but I have found that it's difficult to tell someone's motivation by reading text on the screen.

I am not a speeding driver, usually. I don't have these detectors to allow me to speed. I have them for when I get lazy or zone out and forget that I am coming into a 35 from a 55. I'll get to 35 pretty quick, but had there been a LEO there, the detector would have helped me by several seconds to realize the speed change requirement.

No disrespect to the atlanta cop, but still he is wrong about all PD's having lasers. That's ridiculous. Atlanta is a special case. A big city and he was in his own world there. I have driven all over two or three adjacent states and I have encountered lasers two times in the last 5 years. Once in Atlanta and the other time in east Tenn. No where else, no where at all. I understand the operation of these units, the RF spectrum in which they operate, and the misuse of lasers by some cops to the disadvantage of motorists. That is, where lasers exist, which is the skin on the peanut of speed detection devices out there.

And mr cop, I didn't advocate "jammers". So why they hell are you lecturing me on that? You must still think you are on duty or something. I just don't know.

So Taconite, there you go. Hard to ask a simple question on this forum anymore without folks telling you why you shouldn't ask the question or making fun of the question. But it was a legitimate question and I answered it based solely on my experience with this equipment over years of use in my trucks and autos. That's all I have for this thread. Done.
You know what I find funny? I think it's hysterical when someone like yourself comes into a post and tries to point all the "ancillary, irrelevant opinions"; yet you post the LONGEST ancillary, irrelevant opinions out of everyone.......

Get off your high horse, your "ancillary" opinions are just as useless and irrelevant as the rest of them.

You speak like a democrat........thinking your opinions and experiences are the only ones worth listening to.

To the OP: MY personal experience with radar detectors and laser "jammers" is they are out of date and it is cost prohibitive for a company to make one that can keep up with the technology of today's detection devices. I also agree with the others who say a true laser jammer is illegal.
 

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Copyless
LASER jammers ARE NOT illegal in most states. Laser jammers are illegal in a few states such as Nebraska, Minnesota, Utah, California, Oklahoma, Virginia, Colorado, Illinois and Washington DC., maybe a few more but these are the ones I know of.
You aren't reading the facts correctly, let me try to explain.

While those states you list may have statutes making "laser jammers" illegal.....a true laser jammer IS illegal in every state according to FCC FEDERAL LAW. Anyone who has taken Law 101 or watched CSI knows that federal law always takes precedent over state or local law, unless the state or local law puts a further restriction in addition to fed law.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HarleyGTP
....a true laser jammer IS illegal in every state according to FCC FEDERAL LAW.
This is not correct. The FCC does not regulate laser emissions. Lasers are regulated under CFR Title 21 Section 1040. The regulations currently in place specify the import/export of laser devices and what labeling is required based on the class of device. All lasers must also be certified under FLIPS. Outside of that you can do what you want with them which is part of the reason for the proliferation of high powered devices being sold to the public and then winding up aimed at aircraft.
 
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