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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Hello guys! I just purchased a "used" custom HD combination speedo/tach part#70900070. Item was working perfectly when removed from a "totalled" Road King. I purchase this for my Road King but when plugged the cable to the "Data Link" plug on my RK in order to transfer the mileage from my ECM to the new gauge, I get no message on the new speedo/tach gauge. It was supposed to show the percentage of data copying then CHECK and then OK. I got no message at all, all I got was a red light on for 2-3 secs and that was it! Instructions read that the replacement speedometer will become locked to the ECM after 31.1 miles. Can someone tell if this can be reset or make to work on my bike?

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 06:30 PM
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You need to be able to plug the speedo/tach into the ECM test port with a pigtail harness. Make sure you have the plug oriented correctly as it is easy to get it upside down (ask me how I know).
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 06:29 AM
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from what I understand about it is that it is that you can not use that speedo on another bike once it has been locked on the first bike...so if the speedo was on the original bike for more than 32 miles it was already "married" to that bike and can never be used on another bike...
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfikser
from what I understand about it is that it is that you can not use that speedo on another bike once it has been locked on the first bike...so if the speedo was on the original bike for more than 32 miles it was already "married" to that bike and can never be used on another bike...
That is correct.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfikser
from what I understand about it is that it is that you can not use that speedo on another bike once it has been locked on the first bike...so if the speedo was on the original bike for more than 32 miles it was already "married" to that bike and can never be used on another bike...
yep, another "married" product..
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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yep, another "married" product..
And a good thing in my opinion. I think there is a lot more odometer fraud out there than most people think.
 
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Originally Posted by Keithhu
And a good thing in my opinion. I think there is a lot more odometer fraud out there than most people think.
yes sir I most certainly agree.

To the OP, the only time you see these diagnostic messages is when you first connect the device to the data port of the first bike. It will then read the mileage from the ECM, and embed it into the speedo eprom. So essentially what they've done is to help prevent the odometer fraud is located the mileage in 2 different places with the newer bikes. And if not mistaken, if you don't "marry" it to the bike within the first 200 miles, you're screwed because then the sync process will no longer work.

I like the fact that you can do it on your own now instead of ordering a speedo and have to wait 2-3 weeks to get it because HD has to do mileage reinstatement. This is still the case with the older bikes, 09-prior.
 

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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Keithhu
And a good thing in my opinion. I think there is a lot more odometer fraud out there than most people think.
The odo being married to a specific bike has everything to do with corporate profit and nothing to do with odo fraud.
It would be a piece of cake for the Moco to have made all speedo's inoperable unless they are loaded with mileage from the current machine. But that wouldn't be nearly as profitable, would it?
 
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Originally Posted by Leftcoaster
The odo being married to a specific bike has everything to do with corporate profit and nothing to do with odo fraud.
It would be a piece of cake for the Moco to have made all speedo's inoperable unless they are loaded with mileage from the current machine. But that wouldn't be nearly as profitable, would it?
When I say married I strictly meant that "electronically". This doesn't mean you can't take a married speedo off of one bike and put it on another. It simply means that once it's married to the ECM, if you do sell it to someone else, they'll need to send it into HD just like they have always had to do in the past. No difference so I don't truly see this as a "corporate profit" strategy as much as I see it as Keithhu pointed out in odometer fraud. They're just making it a little more difficult for people to accomplish something they shouldn't be doing in the first place IMHO.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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Well, I think it can be both preventing odo fraud and a corporate profit issue. I dont have a problem with corporate profits as many on this forum do. ( )

I think its a lot of overhead to be d1cking around with odo's, and frankly there were a lot of shenanigans with the old system.

Personally when I bought it, I understood it would be staying with the bike when I sold it. (2 bikes, but now I have a Road Glide, it will no longer be an issue for me)
 

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