Daymaker LED
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Just for clarification:
The adjustment ring and everything else you'll need for your install is provided with the HD branded version of the light.
The 8700 Evolution version headlamp does NOT include anything other than the lamp itself. No, rings, no washers, no nothing.. Just the lamp. Hence the reason I said if you're going to buy the headlamp, you might as well simply buy it from LSHD1.COM @ $419 vs $375 for the lamp then another $52 for the adjustment ring (batwing fairings)
The adjustment ring and everything else you'll need for your install is provided with the HD branded version of the light.
The 8700 Evolution version headlamp does NOT include anything other than the lamp itself. No, rings, no washers, no nothing.. Just the lamp. Hence the reason I said if you're going to buy the headlamp, you might as well simply buy it from LSHD1.COM @ $419 vs $375 for the lamp then another $52 for the adjustment ring (batwing fairings)
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2012
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From: Barberton, Ohio
you are absolutely correct sir on slight curves and straightaways, just a tremendous light setup.
I put my LEDs (passing and headlamp) in on Wednesday evening properly aligned and all. Thursday morning I headed to the Texas hill country and when night fall hit, I couldn't have been more dissapointed with these lights and my expense. When you're leaning into a turn the flat beam of light (passing and headlamp) turns up at an angle at which direction you lean into the turn therefore you've got little to no lighting on the road in front of you where it's needed. This is not a good thing especially in the hill country where axis deer stand on the side of the road and WAIT for you to approach then run out in front of you.
So the second night I was there, I decided to go out on the back roads and test the setup again just to make sure it wasn't just me. Leaned left, light pattern went from left to right, 7 oclock postion to 2 oclock position.
The spots make a HUGE difference themselves with this issue but they too do the same thing.
I then flipped the switch on my crash bar mounted HD fog lights, and that lit up the road in front of me in turns with it's "flood" style lighting.
In the end, the lights themselves are incredible. Love the way they look in the daytime, and they can certainly be see by cagers during the day. At night they light up the night like nothing else I've ever seen. The turns however are a huge problem for me. I like being in the hill country and many a times i'm out after dark and I simply need light to see around corners as I'm leaning into them. So, with that said expect to see mine in the classified section here sometime this week, spots and headlamp.
I put my LEDs (passing and headlamp) in on Wednesday evening properly aligned and all. Thursday morning I headed to the Texas hill country and when night fall hit, I couldn't have been more dissapointed with these lights and my expense. When you're leaning into a turn the flat beam of light (passing and headlamp) turns up at an angle at which direction you lean into the turn therefore you've got little to no lighting on the road in front of you where it's needed. This is not a good thing especially in the hill country where axis deer stand on the side of the road and WAIT for you to approach then run out in front of you.
So the second night I was there, I decided to go out on the back roads and test the setup again just to make sure it wasn't just me. Leaned left, light pattern went from left to right, 7 oclock postion to 2 oclock position.
The spots make a HUGE difference themselves with this issue but they too do the same thing.
I then flipped the switch on my crash bar mounted HD fog lights, and that lit up the road in front of me in turns with it's "flood" style lighting.
In the end, the lights themselves are incredible. Love the way they look in the daytime, and they can certainly be see by cagers during the day. At night they light up the night like nothing else I've ever seen. The turns however are a huge problem for me. I like being in the hill country and many a times i'm out after dark and I simply need light to see around corners as I'm leaning into them. So, with that said expect to see mine in the classified section here sometime this week, spots and headlamp.
This is the exact same experience I've had with mine. On a Street Glide there are no spots to fill in the dark space. has anyone come up with a good way to add that light short of added the spots and light bar that come on the Electra Glides? I've seen the Custom Dynamics Dynamic Ringz that go in place of the stock turn signals but haven't heard anything as far as how well they would fill in the dark space...
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Joined: Mar 2012
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From: Michigan
you are absolutely correct sir on slight curves and straightaways, just a tremendous light setup.
I put my LEDs (passing and headlamp) in on Wednesday evening properly aligned and all. Thursday morning I headed to the Texas hill country and when night fall hit, I couldn't have been more dissapointed with these lights and my expense. When you're leaning into a turn the flat beam of light (passing and headlamp) turns up at an angle at which direction you lean into the turn therefore you've got little to no lighting on the road in front of you where it's needed. This is not a good thing especially in the hill country where axis deer stand on the side of the road and WAIT for you to approach then run out in front of you.
So the second night I was there, I decided to go out on the back roads and test the setup again just to make sure it wasn't just me. Leaned left, light pattern went from left to right, 7 oclock postion to 2 oclock position.
The spots make a HUGE difference themselves with this issue but they too do the same thing.
I then flipped the switch on my crash bar mounted HD fog lights, and that lit up the road in front of me in turns with it's "flood" style lighting.
In the end, the lights themselves are incredible. Love the way they look in the daytime, and they can certainly be see by cagers during the day. At night they light up the night like nothing else I've ever seen. The turns however are a huge problem for me. I like being in the hill country and many a times i'm out after dark and I simply need light to see around corners as I'm leaning into them. So, with that said expect to see mine in the classified section here sometime this week, spots and headlamp.
I put my LEDs (passing and headlamp) in on Wednesday evening properly aligned and all. Thursday morning I headed to the Texas hill country and when night fall hit, I couldn't have been more dissapointed with these lights and my expense. When you're leaning into a turn the flat beam of light (passing and headlamp) turns up at an angle at which direction you lean into the turn therefore you've got little to no lighting on the road in front of you where it's needed. This is not a good thing especially in the hill country where axis deer stand on the side of the road and WAIT for you to approach then run out in front of you.
So the second night I was there, I decided to go out on the back roads and test the setup again just to make sure it wasn't just me. Leaned left, light pattern went from left to right, 7 oclock postion to 2 oclock position.
The spots make a HUGE difference themselves with this issue but they too do the same thing.
I then flipped the switch on my crash bar mounted HD fog lights, and that lit up the road in front of me in turns with it's "flood" style lighting.
In the end, the lights themselves are incredible. Love the way they look in the daytime, and they can certainly be see by cagers during the day. At night they light up the night like nothing else I've ever seen. The turns however are a huge problem for me. I like being in the hill country and many a times i'm out after dark and I simply need light to see around corners as I'm leaning into them. So, with that said expect to see mine in the classified section here sometime this week, spots and headlamp.
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This is the exact same experience I've had with mine. On a Street Glide there are no spots to fill in the dark space. has anyone come up with a good way to add that light short of added the spots and light bar that come on the Electra Glides? I've seen the Custom Dynamics Dynamic Ringz that go in place of the stock turn signals but haven't heard anything as far as how well they would fill in the dark space...
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From: The Burgh
They better work great. Cost is $605 for 2 chrome motolight lamps with LED!!!
Thanks but I'll pass.
Thanks but I'll pass.
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i hear ya... i guess it's all relevant to how important it is to you. Not that important to me being that my Silverstar Ultra bulbs in both headlamp and passing lamps worked great just thought I needed LED.. Guess I was wrong. Headlamp and passing lamps are up for sale in the classifieds/touring section
So what is the suggested setup for the front that will provide good lighting in a straight line and in curves?
I was looking at the HID's from Harley but now I'm having second thoughts. I do quite a bit of riding at night and definitely need to upgrade my lighting - been riding for two years with the stock setup and I KNOW that I need to do something different.
I ride a 2011 Ultra Limited.
I like the idea of the LED's and plan on doing them in other locations. I was hoping to reduce the electrical draw on the bike so I could be less concerned about installing a high performance sound system.
I was looking at the HID's from Harley but now I'm having second thoughts. I do quite a bit of riding at night and definitely need to upgrade my lighting - been riding for two years with the stock setup and I KNOW that I need to do something different.
I ride a 2011 Ultra Limited.
I like the idea of the LED's and plan on doing them in other locations. I was hoping to reduce the electrical draw on the bike so I could be less concerned about installing a high performance sound system.
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HIDs do not present this issue since their light pattern is a "flood" style light pattern much like the stock lights.
the LED's flat projected beam is the issue.
the LED's flat projected beam is the issue.
Is there an LED alternative to the Daymaker that doesn't suffer from the flat dispersion or a way to correct for it? I'm assuming at this point that this is a problem that LED's have yet to (and may never) overcome.
Would the recommendation then be to go with HID replacement bulbs for our headlight and passing lamps for those who want to see into corners at night?