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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tangle Eye
I'm guessing the issue with the light pattern tilting wouldn't be an issue with the TriGlide. I think I want the Daymaker headlamp and auxiliary lamps but the $900 price tag for both (well - less with MVP) is putting me off.
You're absolutely correct, TriGlide's don't lean into a turn like a two-wheeler does. I think they'd be great for that application... If you can get past the price tag.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 10:57 AM
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There was a very detailed write up about the HD Led and the TL7. I have the cheaper TL7. It was plug and play no need for extra parts rings or anything. I made the adjustments as need for height and left right. I bought mine from direct Harley parts and if I remember it was 250. Totally worth it. It has a unique look and everyone loves it.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 11:10 PM
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Well I finally figured out why some guys were talking about adjusting the Daymaker after installing. I installed mine today and what I didn't realize earlier was that the entire headlight assembly is replaced in the Ultra (TriGlide) including the adjustment ring. So, yes, you do need to re-adjust after installing - at least on the Ultra or TriGlide.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HDTimFLHX
This is the exact same experience I've had with mine. On a Street Glide there are no spots to fill in the dark space. has anyone come up with a good way to add that light short of added the spots and light bar that come on the Electra Glides? I've seen the Custom Dynamics Dynamic Ringz that go in place of the stock turn signals but haven't heard anything as far as how well they would fill in the dark space...
You can pick up small led lights and mount them to your brake caliper bolts using any kind of DIY bracket (I used a horn bracket). These are the ones I'm running. They throw off a lot of light everywhere from the road to the treetops so I have them wired to go on with my high beams. A dimmer is advised if you want them on all the time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-L...item2a2bb7ab67



 

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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraNutZ
you are absolutely correct sir on slight curves and straightaways, just a tremendous light setup.

I put my LEDs (passing and headlamp) in on Wednesday evening properly aligned and all. Thursday morning I headed to the Texas hill country and when night fall hit, I couldn't have been more dissapointed with these lights and my expense. When you're leaning into a turn the flat beam of light (passing and headlamp) turns up at an angle at which direction you lean into the turn therefore you've got little to no lighting on the road in front of you where it's needed. This is not a good thing especially in the hill country where axis deer stand on the side of the road and WAIT for you to approach then run out in front of you.

So the second night I was there, I decided to go out on the back roads and test the setup again just to make sure it wasn't just me. Leaned left, light pattern went from left to right, 7 oclock postion to 2 oclock position.

The spots make a HUGE difference themselves with this issue but they too do the same thing.

I then flipped the switch on my crash bar mounted HD fog lights, and that lit up the road in front of me in turns with it's "flood" style lighting.

In the end, the lights themselves are incredible. Love the way they look in the daytime, and they can certainly be see by cagers during the day. At night they light up the night like nothing else I've ever seen. The turns however are a huge problem for me. I like being in the hill country and many a times i'm out after dark and I simply need light to see around corners as I'm leaning into them. So, with that said expect to see mine in the classified section here sometime this week, spots and headlamp.
I have been bitching about the same thing on this forum "Pitfalls of the Harley LED Daymaker" and other posts for a while now. I too do a lot of night canyon riding and with the HD LED spots are still disappointed with the beam. Yep, in sharp dark turns the beams points to the ditch next to you and Mars..... For all you guys out there touting the Trucklite PH7 headlight, it suffers from the same problem. It also has less lumens than the Harley. My neighbor bought the Trucklite (TL) and on our dark street we put our bikes side by side and compared the lights. Low beam, hands down the Harley literally washed his light out of the picture. I mean I turn my light on and his beam is gone! High beam is where the TL shines. It was a bit bright than the Harley and covered a bit more area. For me I'm in low beam most of the time and the Harley performs better in my book. The HID suffer a bit from the same linear problems the LED light do. Also the Trucklite spots are about $110 cheaper and have 1/2 the lumens (brightness). I did the research and called Trucklite and JWSpeaker. HD spots = 550 lumens TL spot = 275 lumens..I think the HD are a no brainer to buy.... Also someone said our HD LED headlight has a fan it it, JWSpeaker said it does not!

I was looking into crash-bar filler lights and was wondering if anyone is running the LED version and do they fill the road in turns. I spoke with Custom Dynamics and they said their "Moon Shines" or their "Sun Spots" lights really wouldn't work as I expected and would be disappointed with them. They said their "Cool Magic" bullet lights might fit the bill, but once you mount them on the bike, you own them....no returns.... So here I am in the same state wondering what next to do... I thought about selling all me LED lights and going back to the "Old school" Xenon/Halogen but the LED's draw less amps and they throw a hell of a lot of light down road. Also beware of not overloading our fragile Stators....see some of those posts..

I'm just so disappointed with this whole LED experience and having to do sooooo much research just to end up with a "lighting problem" still
 
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Twinrider
You can pick up small led lights and mount them to your brake caliper bolts using any kind of DIY bracket (I used a horn bracket). These are the ones I'm running. They throw off a lot of light everywhere from the road to the treetops so I have them wired to go on with my high beams. A dimmer is advised if you want them on all the time.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-L...item2a2bb7ab67



What type of beam do they throw?? Is it more linear or defused? I'm not looking for another "flat beam". I am looking for lighting up the first 100' of the road, mainly in turns. I was thinking of mounting an aux light to the crashbar. So far the only lights that might work (for the money) are the Custom Dynamics Cool Magic lights. Just a total bummer to spend all this money and still have this problem..

A friend asked if I'd do it again and "YES" I would. The light that the HD LED's throw out there is just truly amazing. I light up the road like daytime and burn holes in cars in front of me. For little amperage draw on the system, it's still worth it. Having that much light "old school" would probably burn out your stator..... There is no free lunch........
 
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Elqueso2
I have been bitching about the same thing on this forum "Pitfalls of the Harley LED Daymaker" and other posts for a while now. I too do a lot of night canyon riding and with the HD LED spots are still disappointed with the beam. Yep, in sharp dark turns the beams points to the ditch next to you and Mars..... For all you guys out there touting the Trucklite PH7 headlight, it suffers from the same problem. It also has less lumens than the Harley. My neighbor bought the Trucklite (TL) and on our dark street we put our bikes side by side and compared the lights. Low beam, hands down the Harley literally washed his light out of the picture. I mean I turn my light on and his beam is gone! High beam is where the TL shines. It was a bit bright than the Harley and covered a bit more area. For me I'm in low beam most of the time and the Harley performs better in my book. The HID suffer a bit from the same linear problems the LED light do. Also the Trucklite spots are about $110 cheaper and have 1/2 the lumens (brightness). I did the research and called Trucklite and JWSpeaker. HD spots = 550 lumens TL spot = 275 lumens..I think the HD are a no brainer to buy.... Also someone said our HD LED headlight has a fan it it, JWSpeaker said it does not!

I was looking into crash-bar filler lights and was wondering if anyone is running the LED version and do they fill the road in turns. I spoke with Custom Dynamics and they said their "Moon Shines" or their "Sun Spots" lights really wouldn't work as I expected and would be disappointed with them. They said their "Cool Magic" bullet lights might fit the bill, but once you mount them on the bike, you own them....no returns.... So here I am in the same state wondering what next to do... I thought about selling all me LED lights and going back to the "Old school" Xenon/Halogen but the LED's draw less amps and they throw a hell of a lot of light down road. Also beware of not overloading our fragile Stators....see some of those posts..

I'm just so disappointed with this whole LED experience and having to do sooooo much research just to end up with a "lighting problem" still
I just purchased a "high quality" halogen sealed beam unit (Koito brand) after much discussion with Daniel Stern at Daniel Stern Lighting. He explained quite a bit about the differences between the various lighting options out there and I felt very informed when I made this purchase. The caveat is that it is raining and cold here still and I haven't had the opportunity to install and test this head light yet. I was waiting to post something until I had seen it for my own eyes but it seemed like a good time to say something here.

I feel this, older technology, may be a benefit as it has no cutoff which is what causes the effect that's been discussed when cornering. I plan to do a write-up if this turns out to be a good thing.

It was explained that the American Sealed Beam Units are of very poor quality and will not provide any benefit over the others, in fact it would be worse.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraNutZ
caliper mounted moto lights would work great for added light
I have the caliper mounted moto lights and the HD LED set up. Yeah, there's a horizon there on turns and what not. But that's the only time I think about the fact that I'm on a bike at night....I simply no longer even think about not having good vision. And that's really huge. The horizontal beam never bothered me. Included is a pic with the motos with their LED's installed. No aux LED's when this pic was taken.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Elqueso2
What type of beam do they throw?? Is it more linear or defused? I'm not looking for another "flat beam". I am looking for lighting up the first 100' of the road, mainly in turns. I was thinking of mounting an aux light to the crashbar. So far the only lights that might work (for the money) are the Custom Dynamics Cool Magic lights. Just a total bummer to spend all this money and still have this problem..
They throw a round, defused beam with no cutoff, lighting up everything from the road to the treetops and are exactly what you want if you are looking to light up the first 100' of road or so. That's also why you'd want a dimmer if you want to run them full time.

This kit includes a dimmer that will go to full power when you hit the high beams.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-12V-1600LM...item20d1b749e3

And finally, the most powerful version at 3000 lumens per light. I'm using the 1600 lumens which are very bright, these most be incredibly bright.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3000LM-30W-W...item20d1afc2b7

I have had lights on my engine guard in the past. Problem with that position was the glare off my chrome forks and windshield at night. Mounting the lights to the brake calipers solved this issue.
 

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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 11:01 PM
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http://bogiesreviews.webs.com/Review...ng%20Lamps.pdf Go down to the bottom for the conclusion of the test. TL Phase 7 best bang for the buck!
 
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