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Old May 23, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nomad billy
Whats sumping and whats the cure?
Sumping is when the oil is not being pumped out of the sump, or low end of the motor.
However it should have come out the plug in the bottom if it was doing that.
 

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Old May 23, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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this is a real mystery.....
 
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Old May 23, 2013 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Harleycruiser
Sumping, oil pump not returning
Edit... I thought sumping but just read the whole thread and see that the crankcase drain plug was pulled. So count me stumped like everyone else.

Burning? Couldn't burn that much oil that quick without leaving a James Bond smokescreen. One of the other cases? Wouldn't transfer that quickly. And even if it did, he checked the primary and tranny levels. Don't know where it could be.

The oil light is a strong clue... oil light means no oil pressure. So the oil pressure sending unit seems to agree with the dipstick... no oil. At least none where it should be.
 

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Old May 23, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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If there is 3+qt in the cam cover I don't know how it would fit or stay in.

I'm watching to see the outcome here
 
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Old May 23, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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impossible to lose that much oil in that amount of time with no trace......
 
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Old May 23, 2013 | 05:44 PM
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The derby cover was off and it was filled to the lip of the derby cover? Thats WAY too full.

Are you sure you pulled out the actual crankcase drain plug? This is a plug that is NEVER meant to be removed, you know this, right? It is a pipe plug with tapered threads and has NO o-ring nor gasket. You pulled that one, right? If so, that primary is where I would begin.

There used to be a picture around with text that shows which plug is which.

Drain the primary and then tell us how many ounces are in there.
 
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Old May 23, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wurk_truk
There used to be a picture around with text that shows which plug is which.
Here it is, ask and you shall receive
 
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Old May 23, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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Step 1
Drain each hole and measure what comes out. If each area has the correct fluid measurrment for that component continue. If not post what you find and we will try and help.

Step 2
Before proceeding install a new filter

Step 3
Refill each hole with correct amount of flluid

Step 4
Run again for 10 minutes and recheck everything
 

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Old May 23, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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That picture needs to be edited...

Where it says 'Crank' and 'Primary 1 of 2' are incorrect. The one that says 'Crank' is a pipe plug in front of the oil tank, only used for specific operations like scavenging oil during fluid change or adding a sending unit for an oil gauge. The one marked 'Primary' is actually the crank case plug, NOT the 'Primary 1 of 2'.
 
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Old May 23, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Def Mute
That picture needs to be edited...

Where it says 'Crank' and 'Primary 1 of 2' are incorrect. The one that says 'Crank' is a pipe plug in front of the oil tank, only used for specific operations like scavenging oil during fluid change or adding a sending unit for an oil gauge. The one marked 'Primary' is actually the crank case plug, NOT the 'Primary 1 of 2'.
Yea I should have put a disclaimer that the pic wasn't mine. But I think this is the one he was referring too that was posted like 3 years ago
 
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