Why "true duals"
Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2010
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My sixth gear ran like crap. I had it tuned by three different shops trying to get the sixth gear back to where it should be. I was told by two of the three get rid of those pipes they are costing you torque where you need it. Only one thing solved that issue and it was removing the true duals. BTW, this was back when I was only running stage one. I imagine now I wouldn't notice it as much. But I say why pay the price for reduced performance?
Why pay for a new paint job? Because it looks better to some people. True duals sound better to some people. I'm sure a true dual system will outperform any stock system.
Banned
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Dover, Oh
My sixth gear ran like crap. I had it tuned by three different shops trying to get the sixth gear back to where it should be. I was told by two of the three get rid of those pipes they are costing you torque where you need it. Only one thing solved that issue and it was removing the true duals. BTW, this was back when I was only running stage one. I imagine now I wouldn't notice it as much. But I say why pay the price for reduced performance?
Road Warrior
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,590
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From: North Carolina
Here is how the dealer justifies $1000, New Vance and Hines true dual $600, labor $400. This is why I went with the Slip ons.
Road Warrior
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,590
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From: North Carolina
dyno is deceiving. I don't care what a dyno machine says, when a rider is on the bike going down the road, that's where you find out what the bike will do. This dyno sh$t is a waste of money
Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2010
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So any exhaust besides slip ons should be just as expensive or more than true duals. I had my V&H true duals on in maybe 20 minutes. Sounds like you need a better dealership.
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Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Spokane, WA.
So.......... what about the guys at MGS, they seem to have a pretty well engineered TD system that ( appears ) to not dog out and it actually performs.
What say the MGS converts?
I was really thinking of MGS system as I don't really like the way my V&H ( yawn ) power duals sound.
What say the MGS converts?
I was really thinking of MGS system as I don't really like the way my V&H ( yawn ) power duals sound.
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Joined: Jun 2007
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From: NW Arkansas
On my evo FXRP a supertrapp 2/1. I needed the torque as I have a 15% overdrive. This bike weighs about 400 pounds- stripped. 80" high compression pursuit motor with cam. This 2/1 relieved about 15 pounds from the bike over the stock 2/1/2 system
the 95 FLHTC had stock header and supertrapp supermegs
the 2009 FLHTC has stock header ( no cat) with S/E supertrapp fatshots (modded; added disks, closed end cap).
...and on the 53 FLF...stock exhaust- which is a 2 into 1. ( yes I know, single muffler on a bagger...but that's how they came.) My other '53 and the '63 had same type system.
Here's the 53 FLF
Mike
( the trail 90 has a stock 1 into 1...1st production exhaust system with spark arrest!, the 74 Kawasaki 900 has a very very rare 4/1/4 by Nick Kemp)
the 95 FLHTC had stock header and supertrapp supermegs
the 2009 FLHTC has stock header ( no cat) with S/E supertrapp fatshots (modded; added disks, closed end cap).
...and on the 53 FLF...stock exhaust- which is a 2 into 1. ( yes I know, single muffler on a bagger...but that's how they came.) My other '53 and the '63 had same type system.
Here's the 53 FLF
Mike
( the trail 90 has a stock 1 into 1...1st production exhaust system with spark arrest!, the 74 Kawasaki 900 has a very very rare 4/1/4 by Nick Kemp)
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Joined: May 2010
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From: East Central Illinois
So.......... what about the guys at MGS, they seem to have a pretty well engineered TD system that ( appears ) to not dog out and it actually performs.
What say the MGS converts?
I was really thinking of MGS system as I don't really like the way my V&H ( yawn ) power duals sound.
What say the MGS converts?
I was really thinking of MGS system as I don't really like the way my V&H ( yawn ) power duals sound.
work and don't intend to don't need it I put the pipes on and a Thundermax
tuner and just ride. Runs great.You asked...Also when you call them they answer the phone right away and will answer any questions you have, good
CS. I should say that MGS is the only system I have ever installed on either of my HD's. Wish they made them for a WG.
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Joined: May 2006
Posts: 87
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From: South Alabama
I installed true duals for 3 reasons.
1. reduced heat
2. Better looks
3. Better sound
Any loss of low end torque due to true duals (if any) was well compensated by increasing to 107 big bore and performance heads. The Powervision tuner with AT does the tuning for me.
1. reduced heat
2. Better looks
3. Better sound
Any loss of low end torque due to true duals (if any) was well compensated by increasing to 107 big bore and performance heads. The Powervision tuner with AT does the tuning for me.