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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Very interested in this "routine maintenance repair" as well. Unfortunately I have a sickness that wont allow me to leave well enough alone. I called Aroura looking for a distributor local to me, and to find out if this bearing is available in stainless, because the application is not "sealed", even though the ball in this particular model is. Anyway, no it is not available in stainless, and "they have no influence to change it because this particular product is produced overseas". Sorry to burst bubbles, but this is not made in the USA. It is still a fantastic improvement over OEM specs, I'll probably buy it. I can't think of a good mechanical reason why a spherical bearing is used in this application, once the shaft goes through both bearings they no longer "wobulate" as the spherical design is intended; a true plain bearing or even rollers would be better suited, there is no requirement for a spherical function in this application. Must be simple manufacturing economics, cheaper to build this way, the trade off is a short life sloppy swing arm pivot.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fabrik8r
Very interested in this "routine maintenance repair" as well. Unfortunately I have a sickness that wont allow me to leave well enough alone. I called Aroura looking for a distributor local to me, and to find out if this bearing is available in stainless, because the application is not "sealed", even though the ball in this particular model is. Anyway, no it is not available in stainless, and "they have no influence to change it because this particular product is produced overseas". Sorry to burst bubbles, but this is not made in the USA. It is still a fantastic improvement over OEM specs, I'll probably buy it. I can't think of a good mechanical reason why a spherical bearing is used in this application, once the shaft goes through both bearings they no longer "wobulate" as the spherical design is intended; a true plain bearing or even rollers would be better suited, there is no requirement for a spherical function in this application. Must be simple manufacturing economics, cheaper to build this way, the trade off is a short life sloppy swing arm pivot.
So I guess the next question would be is there a plain or roller bearing with the correct dimensions to work in this application? I am going to purchase a pair of the Aroura bearings from Motion Industries if it is as good as it gets. If I were to use a roller bearing I would definitely prefer it to be a sealed bearing or be able to have a seal installed to shield it.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by $tonecold
So I guess the next question would be is there a plain or roller bearing with the correct dimensions to work in this application? I am going to purchase a pair of the Aroura bearings from Motion Industries if it is as good as it gets. If I were to use a roller bearing I would definitely prefer it to be a sealed bearing or be able to have a seal installed to shield it.
Probably not an off the shelf product available, I will most likely order these from Motion also. Although its not my vision of the "ideal" solution it is a dramatic improvement over OEM. Modifying and separating the vibration dampener from the swing arm pivot is one of my planned projects, just haven't got to it yet. The driveline/swing arm/chassis pivot and vibration dampener design is a great contributor to the undesirable handling characteristics experienced by many, it will require a lot of work to separate these functions, and still maintain the utility of each.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 01:48 PM
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$tonecold, I just ordered 4 so holler if/when you need them, $14.99 each should be in on Monday, but I wont be back in town till the 6th. I asked them about stocking them but not interested, first call they ever had for them, for any application.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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Jason, can you post the contact info for where you ordered your bearings please? I'm interested in this for my 07 Road King. I figure with your FCS and Modified Ricor intiminators on my bike I may as well go all in and do the swingarm bearings and the sta Bo bushings.

From what I have read on this thread if I do the bearings and sta Bo bushings I should be able to ditch my Tru-track ? Is that correct ?
 
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Jason, can you post the contact info for where you ordered your bearings please? I'm interested in this for my 07 Road King. I figure with your FCS and Modified Ricor intiminators on my bike I may as well go all in and do the swingarm bearings and the sta Bo bushings.

From what I have read on this thread if I do the bearings and sta Bo bushings I should be able to ditch my Tru-track ? Is that correct ?
If you call Aroura they can provide you a distributor contact close to you, I try to spend local whenever I can. Bearing, Belt and Chain, Motion Industries in Phoenix is where I ordered them. I strongly recommend the Sta-Bo bushings to anyone, they work, If you still have a wobble after installing them, you likely have some other problem that a "third link" will just mask or not fix. I'm not going to claim you can remove your existing "third link" device after installing new swing arm bearings and Sta-Bo bushings, but I didn't feel I needed one. Its been several years since I installed the Sta-Bo bushings and now the rear is starting to feel a little squirrelly , I suspect the spherical bearings, and theses will probably work great.
 
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$tonecold, I just ordered 4 so holler if/when you need them, $14.99 each should be in on Monday, but I wont be back in town till the 6th. I asked them about stocking them but not interested, first call they ever had for them, for any application.
Thanks Jason, I'm back to Oregon on the 1st, will be back the 17th, so will contact you then.
 
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Maybe I missed it, but don't see in this thread how you folks are coming up with the alternate bearing numbers - do the companies mentioned know what you need?

Refurbishing my old Tour Glide this winter, and swing arm is on the list, but it doesn't have spherical bearings anyway. I replaced the spherical bearings in my 04 sportster this past summer, were so tight with the wheel and shock off, had to push the swing arm down. Bearings were lined with crud; cleaned off, looked ok, but had noticeable side play. Couldn't find aftermarket replacements, so got the German made ones from Harley, and they had almost as much side play as the old ones. Bike handles fine, but if I could find a tighter replacement, would put them on next tire change.

Dry spherical bearings with no seal seems to be a poor choice in such an exposed area. I covered up the exposed sides with red tacky grease, but that won't keep crud out forever. I've used spherical bearings with seals in aircraft; it can be done.
 
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not sure why I never saw this thread before - subscribed
 
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