2014 Infotainment issues Part 2.
Cruiser
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From: Southern Calif
I live in Calif. and have made 2 trips to the east coast. The east coast trips are how I picked up most of the states east of the Mississippi.
Cruiser
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From: Southern Calif
Software 1.17.4 Installed
I just installed the new 1.17.4 software that I downloaded from the Harley website. It is now actually 1.17.4 which is the good news. The bad news is
It still only accepts 10 waypoints
The AVC doesn't adjust enough to support freeway speeds when listening to the speakers which my 2012 radio was able to do. I haven't tested it with my headset yet.
It still only accepts 10 waypoints
The AVC doesn't adjust enough to support freeway speeds when listening to the speakers which my 2012 radio was able to do. I haven't tested it with my headset yet.
Last edited by larry5601; Feb 9, 2014 at 12:22 PM.
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From: Long Island NY
Major kudos to the folks at Rocky Mountain H-D for being alert for a potential fix, and for being pro-active to solve!!
They received the adapter Thursday and called me to come take a look. The adapter has a plug on one end that mates to an empty socket on the backside of the infotainment deck, and a 3.5mm male plug on the other that mates to the audio out cable that is part of the harness of a garmin gps cradle.
On Friday, they pulled the fairing on a Street Glide with the 4.3 system installed, because I was interested to know if it would work with the less expensive radio (why pay for a 6.5 if I wasn't going to use a major feature?). I couldn't be there for their testing, but by all reports, it works and has full interrupt capability! They didn't try it on a 6.5, but we have every reason to believe it will work on those, as well.
Many thanks to all riders who have participated in this thread and the other: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...-pathetic.html I have it on very good authority that Milwaukee has been monitoring these 2 threads (and others) and their $40 adapter is in direct response to all of the sincere feedback.
And special thanks to Nate, Matt, Zach and the team at Rocky Mountain H-D for staying on this issue.
They received the adapter Thursday and called me to come take a look. The adapter has a plug on one end that mates to an empty socket on the backside of the infotainment deck, and a 3.5mm male plug on the other that mates to the audio out cable that is part of the harness of a garmin gps cradle.
On Friday, they pulled the fairing on a Street Glide with the 4.3 system installed, because I was interested to know if it would work with the less expensive radio (why pay for a 6.5 if I wasn't going to use a major feature?). I couldn't be there for their testing, but by all reports, it works and has full interrupt capability! They didn't try it on a 6.5, but we have every reason to believe it will work on those, as well.
Many thanks to all riders who have participated in this thread and the other: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...-pathetic.html I have it on very good authority that Milwaukee has been monitoring these 2 threads (and others) and their $40 adapter is in direct response to all of the sincere feedback.
And special thanks to Nate, Matt, Zach and the team at Rocky Mountain H-D for staying on this issue.
Tourer
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From: Highland Perthshire, Scotland
Hey Dan, did you ever get to see this adapter in action or buy one, I've been searching the HD site and can't seem to locate it. If you purchased, how is it working, I'd like to get one to add a little versatility to the 6.5, maybe add my backup Garmin on a long ride just in case. Any info please, thanks!
The "Audio Jack Jumper" comes just as a little lead about 8" long, no instructions at all. One end is a male stereo jack, and the other end is a 12-pin female molex. It seems obvious - as that's the only connector of that type and colour (black) - that it's meant to connect to the harness where the CB module plugs in. The three wires are on pins 6, 7, and 8. Looking at the wiring diagram, these are unused, even when the CB module is connected. I think it comes with the connector on as the main intention would be for 4.3" units, with no CB, but it is easy enough to extract the pins and put them in the same empty positions on a model with 6.5 CB plug. The diagram shows these as Audio In 3 Right, Audio in 3 Left/Mono, and Audio in 3 Shield/Mono. When just connected in this way, it doesn't work, presumably because of the reported setting called "use external GPS" that the original discoverer of this said was in the Digital Technician. We need to get the bike to the dealer to do this - but with the weather as it is, that's some weeks away.
But it would appear that the intention is that Audio Input 3 is free, and - presumably - has priority over other audio, so the problem of getting audio from a decent GPS is indeed hopefully solved.
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From: Long Island NY
My friend and I have now got some experience with the adapter in question on his FLHTK. (You won't see it on the HD site though - you'd need to get your dealer to order one.)
The "Audio Jack Jumper" comes just as a little lead about 8" long, no instructions at all. One end is a male stereo jack, and the other end is a 12-pin female molex. It seems obvious - as that's the only connector of that type and colour (black) - that it's meant to connect to the harness where the CB module plugs in. The three wires are on pins 6, 7, and 8. Looking at the wiring diagram, these are unused, even when the CB module is connected. I think it comes with the connector on as the main intention would be for 4.3" units, with no CB, but it is easy enough to extract the pins and put them in the same empty positions on a model with 6.5 CB plug. The diagram shows these as Audio In 3 Right, Audio in 3 Left/Mono, and Audio in 3 Shield/Mono. When just connected in this way, it doesn't work, presumably because of the reported setting called "use external GPS" that the original discoverer of this said was in the Digital Technician. We need to get the bike to the dealer to do this - but with the weather as it is, that's some weeks away.
But it would appear that the intention is that Audio Input 3 is free, and - presumably - has priority over other audio, so the problem of getting audio from a decent GPS is indeed hopefully solved.
The "Audio Jack Jumper" comes just as a little lead about 8" long, no instructions at all. One end is a male stereo jack, and the other end is a 12-pin female molex. It seems obvious - as that's the only connector of that type and colour (black) - that it's meant to connect to the harness where the CB module plugs in. The three wires are on pins 6, 7, and 8. Looking at the wiring diagram, these are unused, even when the CB module is connected. I think it comes with the connector on as the main intention would be for 4.3" units, with no CB, but it is easy enough to extract the pins and put them in the same empty positions on a model with 6.5 CB plug. The diagram shows these as Audio In 3 Right, Audio in 3 Left/Mono, and Audio in 3 Shield/Mono. When just connected in this way, it doesn't work, presumably because of the reported setting called "use external GPS" that the original discoverer of this said was in the Digital Technician. We need to get the bike to the dealer to do this - but with the weather as it is, that's some weeks away.
But it would appear that the intention is that Audio Input 3 is free, and - presumably - has priority over other audio, so the problem of getting audio from a decent GPS is indeed hopefully solved.
Tourer
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From: Castle Rock, CO
Hi Rob - Jim has much more hands on that I do at this point. I wasn't there for the testing, but it was done on a 4.3 with a Road Tech 665 mounted, and supposedly worked as advertised.
With this jumper resolving the 3rd party gps issue for me - and a screaming deal from my good friends at RM-HD - I have a '14 TK being farkled as we speak, expecting delivery this weekend. Jim's comments about moving pins is real interesting and I've taken the liberty of passing it on to the Service crew @ Rocky.
With this jumper resolving the 3rd party gps issue for me - and a screaming deal from my good friends at RM-HD - I have a '14 TK being farkled as we speak, expecting delivery this weekend. Jim's comments about moving pins is real interesting and I've taken the liberty of passing it on to the Service crew @ Rocky.
Tourer
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From: Highland Perthshire, Scotland
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Tourer
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: Highland Perthshire, Scotland
Hi Rob - Jim has much more hands on that I do at this point. I wasn't there for the testing, but it was done on a 4.3 with a Road Tech 665 mounted, and supposedly worked as advertised.
With this jumper resolving the 3rd party gps issue for me - and a screaming deal from my good friends at RM-HD - I have a '14 TK being farkled as we speak, expecting delivery this weekend. Jim's comments about moving pins is real interesting and I've taken the liberty of passing it on to the Service crew @ Rocky.
With this jumper resolving the 3rd party gps issue for me - and a screaming deal from my good friends at RM-HD - I have a '14 TK being farkled as we speak, expecting delivery this weekend. Jim's comments about moving pins is real interesting and I've taken the liberty of passing it on to the Service crew @ Rocky.
Next question is about mounting the Garmin without obscuring anything else. Looks like on the left, and maybe the best bracket is HD's one that mounts on the two screws of the housing clamp. We *think* that should be OK for not obscuring anything else, but we won't know till we try.....
Plan is to use a Garmin Zumo 390LM, so for anyone that's not seen one of these, a little more info:
1) It will Bluetooth to the bike, with the same error as the 660, regarding not synching (bike thinks it's a phone) but will not play the nav instructions through the Infotainment system - hopefully a moot problem as this cable exists!
2) The 390LM has no MP3 playing facility built in - no biggie if it works with the infotainment system as we hope with this connector.
3) WTF were garmin thinking when they designed this unit??? It /should/ be a logical replacement for the 660/665, because it has some great new features - service history recording, tyre pressure monitoring, twisty road route choice, enough RAM to load the whole region.... BUT: some things are crazy, real showstoppers. The bike cradle cable supplies power only, i.e. there is no harness connection for audio out, and the only place to connect a traffic receiver is the mini-USB socket, and the bike cradle obscures it. Ditto if you want to use the cigar lighter plug lead to mount it on a different bike temporarily - only intended for use with the car cradle, plugs into the USB socket, which the bike cradle covers. If you want to use the audio out, it's under a rubber flap on the bottom of the unit, and it's not going to be weatherproof when you have a jack plugged in. It is probably possible to Dremel a little out of the bike cradle to allow access to the USB plug, but to have to do so to connect a traffic receiver is simply nuts.
"Designed by bikers for bikers" eh? I think not.
Last edited by eqcons; Feb 18, 2014 at 03:59 AM.
Tourer
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From: Castle Rock, CO
Happy New Bike!
Next question is about mounting the Garmin without obscuring anything else. Looks like on the left, and maybe the best bracket is HD's one that mounts on the two screws of the housing clamp. We *think* that should be OK for not obscuring anything else, but we won't know till we try......
Next question is about mounting the Garmin without obscuring anything else. Looks like on the left, and maybe the best bracket is HD's one that mounts on the two screws of the housing clamp. We *think* that should be OK for not obscuring anything else, but we won't know till we try......
I'm thinking "Designed by soccer moms for bikers" might be more apropos for the gps in the 6.5, however <lol>