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Old May 23, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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My 2011 ultra had a rattle in primary, Turns out its the compensator, Its a SE comp, The bike has 6000 miles, No warranty, Harley wants to put updated comp with oil scoop on the inside of primary, I think im going, this route About a thousand dollars includes new primary cover,Inside was chewed up, What do you think?
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 07:39 PM
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Unless it was also damaged, you should not need a new rotor so my guess is about $500 in parts and $500 in labor. They won't even need to glue the little oil doohickey as the new primary covers are supposed to have them cast in. Perhaps the parts are a bit more and the labor a bit less. It shouldn't be a very difficult job, change one comp for another and bolt it up. My bike has never been back to the dealer so I'm not the best judge of what is reasonable or not. I did my own change to the SE comp about 4 years ago and I think even this unpracticed old man would only need about 4 hours for this job unless there is lots metal junk that needs to be flushed and vacuumed out. If they wind up needing to pull the rotor due to contamination, that estimate begins to sound better all the time.
 

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Old May 23, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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Had to do the same thing on my '11. I paid $1200 bucks but needed a stator (but not a new cover) and the 20k service (minus fluids).
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 08:00 PM
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Hmmm. Mine was replaced under warranty and it took about 2 hours.
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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If you have a breaker bar (20 bucks Harbor Freight), a torque wrench (30 bucks HF), and a piece of wood you can do all of that yourself and save a ton.

It's really easy work. If I still lived in Tampa I'd do it for you for beer. Like 2 whole beers (after) .

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Old May 23, 2014 | 08:15 PM
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why do these comps keep crappin out. i cant believe Harley dosnt have a recall. kinda sad. i have a 13 UC and i guess im just waiting for this to happen. prob the day after the warranty is up. surprised theres not more outrage. seems like people just accept it cause its an HD
 

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Old May 23, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeo33y
why do these comps keep crappin out. i cant believe Harley dosnt have a recall. kinda sad. i have a 13 UC and i guess im just waiting for this to happen. prob the day after the warranty is up. srptised theres not more outrage. seems like people just accept it cause its an HD
For a recall to happen, Harley would need to have a replacement part that was actually superior to the old part. They haven't come up with that part yet.
 
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Old May 23, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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Default AMS has a better part

I've replaced mine on the '08 with this one from AMS.

Our Compensator Bolt Lock ensures your 2007 and later* Harley's compensator bolt stays torqued!

Highly recommended for high performance motors. The Comp Bolt Lock Kit includes lock plate and two socket head capscrews. For SE comp kit p/n 40724-08A it also includes two spacers for the socket head screws (not shown).

http://www.amsmotomachine.com/hdparts

I am in no way associated with AMS nor receive any money for mentioning products. Tom and his crew just do great work...

 

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Typically the bolt loosening up is not the problem. The factory units pre-11 with the coil spring just couldn't handle the torque of the 96 ci and bigger engines. The first SE Comps had no provision to get oil into the hub area of the sprocket or to the cam/sprocket spoke interface. Those are the two areas where the SE Comps would wear prematurely and get noisy. The latest version has provisions to get oil to both areas yet they still seem to wear on the cam/spoke faces. At this point I have no idea if Harley needs a special lube or more hardening in those areas. To me, the design looks good but the metal doesn't seem to hold up under the pressure from the big springs. Perhaps springs with a little less pressure would eliminate the rapid wear yet still handle the torque.
 
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