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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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I'm already pretty happy, but what would you suggest adding to a 103" w/SE255's?

Above all, I want my bike to have good street manners (no pinging, excessive heat, etc.).

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The 255 cams run on the hot side around town. So they tend to want to ping if the motor is is hot and not properly tuned. They are a great torque touring cam but not so great around town driving in traffic. You can tune the heat out of them but like everything there is a price to pay. I like my 255s but I spent a lot of time working on pinging and heat issues. If you are out touring in the mountains and not sitting in traffic nothing beats them. If you do a lot of in town riding and sitting in traffic there are probably better picks. My understand is the 254E cams are a little better with heat management at the cost of shifting the power band a couple hundred RPM to the right. They came out after I installed the 255s.
 

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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FX4
... If you do a lot of in town riding and sitting in traffic their are probably better picks. My understand is the 254E cams are a little better with heat management at the cost of shifting the power band a couple hundred RPM to the right. They came out after I installed the 255s.
Here's a chart for comparison.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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That's a really good chart for reference.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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I"m a big guy so I'm like riding two up all the time. I bought my used 2008 SG knowing I would ride the 96 for a year then do the FM107 build. It runs fantastic. The base tune they sent me was a great start and the PV tuner has slowly made it run better and better.
And as a reference as stated that the 103 is also good, well good yes but coming from a 96 you are going to love the 107. I had a run against a 103 on a dyna style bike with no bags and only his bike (small guy too) against my fully loaded (luggage) Street Glide.
As he put it, "Wow, I shifted down, you shifted down and then you were gone like I was sitting still. Just your taillight twinkling up ahead" Lol . And then , "I WANT A 107"
I don't need the fastest bike as long as I"m not the slowest. LOL
 
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 01:01 PM
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Well I certainly do not claim to be as fast as Jamie's 107 build but I leave plenty of CVO 110 guys scratching their heads.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by drspencer
I'm already pretty happy, but what would you suggest adding to a 103" w/SE255's?

Above all, I want my bike to have good street manners (no pinging, excessive heat, etc.).

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My favorite cams for the 103 motor is still the SE204s. I like the 255s for the TC96.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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Why a 107? You feel that sounds better than a 110"? Why stop there...but what if they still 'walk away' from you.....just get a Goldwing for cripes sake.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FX4
I leave plenty of CVO 110 guys scratching their heads.
I was doing that with my 98". It pissed off a couple of them. It's even easier with my 120" One problem though is I've been looking at new bikes and I would have to give up the big motor....at least for the first year until I put the funds together to do another build. I keep telling myself I won't on my next bike......but I know I will.

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Originally Posted by themensh
Why a 107? You feel that sounds better than a 110"? Why stop there...but what if they still 'walk away' from you.....just get a Goldwing for cripes sake.
A well tuned 107 with a little head work will leave a Goldwing behind. Mine does.
 
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Originally Posted by FX4
. . .but I leave plenty of CVO 110 guys scratching their heads.
LMAO ! Well said ! Had Steve build a GMR 106 in my 2006 Ultra last summer...122 hp / 119 tq. It runs circles around the CVO 110's.
 
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