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Old May 25, 2025 | 07:19 PM
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Hey everyone new to the forum trying to gain some info or help with my 06 police road king. Over the winter I did usual maintenance and checked my chain tensioners anywsys found my inner bearing were toast and they are the end of my cams a bit so I replaced all the bearings and cams with TW21s along with S&S adjustable pushrods. Now here’s my issue, after doing the cams and pushrods and bearings I bought a power vision tuner and got a tune from dynojet for the parts I have installed, bike idles and runs awesome no complaints at all but with the live data on the PV I notice when accelerating hard/putting some load on the engine it’ll start to count knock events. I personally don’t hear pings or knocks while riding but the pv counts them. The plugs are new and gapped and I only run 91 in the bike. I’m looking for thoughts on what might be the cause of the knocks or advice. I know a dyno tune would be my best of the best bet but I’m about as north are you can get in Ontario on a main highway and there’s no dunks near me lol thanks in advance
 
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Run some auto tune sessions with the tune that was provided, it should adjust the timing and fuel so the knock condition does not occur. Did you make sure to get the correct OEM plugs for the bike?
 
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I don’t have the auto tune with my powervision because my bike doesn’t have factory O2s, and I’m running the NGK match to the stock plugs gapped to spec.
 
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Then the only other option I know of is to get it Dyno tuned by a tuner who knows what he is doing and adjust the timing and fuel so knock events do not occur.
 
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Yep you’re probably right haha just sucks cause I’m sure the nearest guy is probably 6+ hours away atleast
 
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Originally Posted by CoolBreeze3646
Run some auto tune sessions with the tune that was provided, it should adjust the timing and fuel so the knock condition does not occur. Did you make sure to get the correct OEM plugs for the bike?
Autotune don't retard timing.. OP need to collect data and find where the events are then retard. I'd do 3 degrees in the location and smooth the map.
 
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Autotune don't retard timing.. OP need to collect data and find where the events are then retard. I'd do 3 degrees in the location and smooth the map.
This does make sense to me and I have a tiny bit of knowledge with the dynojet program my only question is how do I determine where or what causes the events? Just by data logging? If you’re any good with this kind of thing I would really appreciate some help haha
 
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This does make sense to me and I have a tiny bit of knowledge with the dynojet program my only question is how do I determine where or what causes the events? Just by data logging? If you’re any good with this kind of thing I would really appreciate some help haha
I probably have even less than you but I suspect that you need to set up logging and find when the events occur then go to the map that sets the timing and retard from there. If simply pull the counts from the display you might get close by looking at RPMs on the Tach and approximate throttle position. IIRC the table to change will be MAP vs RPM..

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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
I probably have even less than you but I suspect that you need to set up logging and find when the events occur then go to the map that sets the timing and retard from there. If simply pull the counts from the display you might get close by looking at RPMs on the Tach and approximate throttle position. IIRC the table to change will be MAP vs RPM..

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I primary tune with TMAX which uses throttle position and RPM to set timing. AFR is done on the fly.
okay makes sense, I’ll start by data logging knocks, throttle position and rpm? Also I can pull up the stock and the dynojet tunes and see how far advanced the timing is, maybe it is a huge jump that I can pull a little here and there. Only weird thing is let’s say a throttle pull from 1800rpm to 5000rpm type thing it’ll count 1 knock so it’s trying to find it in there hahshss
 
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Autotune don't retard timing.. OP need to collect data and find where the events are then retard. I'd do 3 degrees in the location and smooth the map.
Only if the fuel is right
 
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