Then don't read the threads!
Problem solved


And I don't appreciate people that don't have the problem(s) or don't care about the amount of they money wasted, ridiculiing those that have issue with the problems.

 

I have to wonder what everyone who is dissatisfied with the Infotainment (GPS) system rode before the Rushmores came out....a BMW maybe? Lets be honest here....the only real complaints when saying "Infotainment system" is related to the GPS system. I've been riding for over 35 years and this is the first bike that has ever had a GPS system built in.

I do like the ability to have the Nav up on the screen so I can see the road ahead of me in map form. It is a big plus and upgrade to the road atlas in my saddlebag! But I have never needed to have my hand held to tell me when I need to merge or a turn is up ahead. I'm not trying to discredit anyone's desire for a full featured navigation system, but how did some of you get around before the '14's came out? And several have stated "we paid for it", but you guys quickly forget that the pre '14 STANDARD Street Glide was the same cost as a '14 SGS. So that means the MoCo added all of the upgrades including the Infotainment system at NO additional charge. If you didn't want some of the costly upgrades they gave us the option to save a couple grand and buy a Standard Street Glide.

And the few that may claim myself as "technologically challenged"....lol. I got news for you, I'm an electrical engineer, Registered Communications Distribution Designer and a licensed Electrical Contractor. And I used to program in DOS back in the 80's. Hardly technologically challenged!

Don't get me wrong, I too would like for the system to operate to it's full potential but I will rarely use all of the features. But I know to many of us it is important and may be an issue and I hope the MoCo gets it all sorted out. At the end of the day I want it all to work properly as well. But I'm not going to say that's what I paid for, I got my '14 SGS for over 1K less than I paid for my standard '12 SG two years ago.

But to be honest, I picked up my '14 a little less than a couple of months ago and it probably has a lot of the bugs worked out that some of you may not have. For that I hope the MoCo does everyone right....and I'm confident that they will....eventually.

But I hope I don't get to the point that I stop studying a road atlas the night before each day's journey to familiarize myself with the route and plan accordingly and completely depend on some electronic female to direct me to my destination. That would take away too much of the adventure and enjoyment of why I love to ride!

 

Roger That,

I hear what you're saying, but you also understand that when we buy a bike (or anything for that matter) we each value some things greater than other things. Some folks don't care about the GPS or electronics (as demonstrated by some posters here), but would be truly upset if the pipes didn't sound just right, or the jiffy stand wasn't working perfect, or couldn't connect there their iPhone, etc. You see I don't listen to music or use my phone when riding, so it isn't really personally important to me that it works... but I would (and do) understand when folks complain about them not working correctly for them. I don't get on a rant about "why do you need to talk on a phone while riding", etc. Or "what did you do before you had a mobile phone". However, I have seen those kind of comments.

As to the cost... H-D sells this system for $1,799 as an upgrade. While they have managed to keep the overall cost of the bike down (thank goodness), it doesn't mean you're not paying for it. It's part of the $20k plus that you and I paid. I'm not ready to return my bike... I really do love to ride it... just like the guys who don't care about the GPS, Radio, CB, etc.

I like this forum... and I've seen a lot of complaints and gripping on just about everything here. However, I really don't understand folks (not you) that seem to get off on demeaning someone else's concerns or complaints. I just wish they would move on to other threads that are about things they like to complain about.

Ron

 

I love the system... but it sometimes has a mind of its own!

 

I can agree and appreciate everything you are saying. No argument here. And I certainly do not mean or intend to demean anyone here or anywhere else. As well I also agree with you and also don't understand the need for anyone to demean other's concerns or complaints. And don't get me wrong, I too love the GPS system and hope they address the issues that seem to be important to many but I'm not going to let it diminish the enjoyment I have every single time I pull my leg over the saddle and ride.

But it does baffle me when hearing someone may rethink getting a '14 and getting an older model due to the Infotainment system. Having a bike that has an "ok" navigation system is much better than no navigation system....especially considering all of the other far more important upgrades relating to the ride-ability of the bike and safety improvements.

I love this bike and the improvements that have been made, and is so much superior to the '12 SG I had previously in every single way.....Infotainment system included.

 

My issues with the system have nothing to do with "what did you used to ride before"?

I bought a system that is flawed. I have a system that the MoCo (and until very recently the dealers) tried to tell me the problem(s) didn't exist.
According to a service manager, I have a system that got messed-up because I didn't install the USB flash drive correctly when I did the .4 update.
I have a GPS that constantly shows the wrong direction, no matter which "compass" I use or what direction I'm actually traveling.
I had a volume control joystick and automatic volume control (that until I did the .5 update) would stop working.

I've worked with radio transmitters, receivers, & antennas over 30 years. I was one of the first amateur radio operators to talk to the space shuttle in 1983.
I've been using GPS units for satellite communications antenna design and installations since 1990.
I learned DOS in 1986, Unix as well.
So anyone's criticism of my findings in this area, reveal their unsound technical background. <insert laugh>

My point is - I also know what I'm talking about, especially with regards to electronics and matrixed systems. To have the MoCo and service departments talk to me like I'm just a clueless rider used to concern me, now it pisses me off.
This is not aimed and any specific person(s)... I have to assume the MoCo and service folks are handing out their BS because they have gotten away with it handing it to so many other riders who don't know any better.

If these issues don't bother a rider who has them, that's OK with me.
But don't come at me because I chose to share the problems, discuss the issues and show my discontent.

This attitude out there "because it doesn't bother me, I'm above, better (whatever you choose) then the guys complaining, just ride" is non-sense. And that is how some comments have come across.

And just because I feel HD has dropped the ball, doesn't mean I'm no longer a fan, I'm just fed-up with their approach or lack thereof.
OK time to hit the hay, I have a 600 mile trip starting in 7 hours. But rest assured I'm using the Nuvi GPS
Vent Mode OFF

 

Amen! I'm in no way saying that anyone should not buy this bike because of the Nav system... Like I said... I love riding this bike! In fact, I need to logoff and get out there.

Ron

 

So far my only complaint with the Boom Box is it's inability to stay switched off!

It's features are head and shoulders above the old system. I am amazed at the job HD did with this system. I had no idea they would jump so far beyond the old system in one fell swoop!! Comparing the features of the 2013 to the 2014 will give you a real appreciation what HD pulled off.

That being said the Boom Box was not the slightest factor in my buying decision as I NEVER turn it on while riding.

 

Perhaps next time you should state at the beginning of your post that you only want comments from those that agree with you. When Harley gets around to it they will have an update. Will it resolve all of your issues? I can guarantee that it will not. You'll live with it or be a very unhappy rider every time you get on your bike.

FYI, my compass works fine, I can live with 9 way points, I get great reception, the stock speakers work just fine, love the size of the screen compared to my little Garmin, ride planner worked great for my trip to Sturgis, the volume always increases as I increase my speed. All issues I have had with my unit were cockpit errors. If you knew DOS 1.0 (revised from 86 DOS) you should understand that all issues were never and will never be fully resolved; it didn't with DOS 1.x, 2.x 3.x, Windows 95, Windows ME, Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7 and now Windows 8 with all kinds of bugs! And this is what they do for a living! And you expected a motorcycle manufacturer to put out an absolutely flawless system; you set yourself up to be very disappointed.

Just turn your system off and enjoy the ride, or trade it in for a bike without GPS.

 

Have never owned a GPS that did not have its quirks. Many issues are from frustration of operator error. I was guilty of that upfront. Many men cannot get a grip on an iPhone never mind an infotainment center on a motorcycle

You cannot learn while riding. I spent an hour in the garage playing with the system and learning it. When frustrated came here and asked questions. 90% of my issues were just due to a learning curve. I also went through the online tutorial a few times