SAS air shocks
The bleed and feed and progressive air tail offer compression and damping porperties where as the others do not. I am not sure about the SAS. If you are concerned about your old ladies back I suggest one of the two systems mentioned above that offer compression and damping. Let me know and I can hook you up with a friend for a great price.
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The bleed and feed and progressive air tail offer compression and damping porperties where as the others do not. I am not sure about the SAS. If you are concerned about your old ladies back I suggest one of the two systems mentioned above that offer compression and damping. Let me know and I can hook you up with a friend for a great price.
Ta,
bluey
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I out it on my 2007 night train, no problems with it, I like it allot...
$1600 is allot for any air suspension.....
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$1600 is allot for any air suspension.....
here is the link to my post
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laying frame
i checked out shot gun shocks and they said that their air shocks can lay frame but there has to be some modification to the swing arm and or the frame...i know its possible but i cant seem to find anyone who has done it.... my bike is about 3 inches off the ground as it is, it would be really cool if i could find someone who has done it before i start rippin her apart in the winter..
laying frame is when a bike or car can drop its frame on the ground either with hydraulics or air suspension, its kinda cool on bikes because u dont need a kickstand.. google it!
laying frame is when a bike or car can drop its frame on the ground either with hydraulics or air suspension, its kinda cool on bikes because u dont need a kickstand.. google it!
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I out it on my 2007 night train, no problems with it, I like it allot...
$1600 is allot for any air suspension.....
here is the link to my post
copy/past
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softa...tall-done.html
$1600 is allot for any air suspension.....
here is the link to my post
copy/past
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softa...tall-done.html
How do you find the unit for comfort as compared to the standard set-up?
Are they bouncy and do they bottom out if you don't have them right up?
I like a it soft and comfortable but that usually makes for poor handling in the twisties.
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I just ordered a Platinum Bleed & Feed kit for my ride from Shooter64(Bart). It should be dropped shipped shortly.
Bart answered every email in a timely fashion and knows his stuff when asked about this product.
Looking forward to installing this unit and airing my baby up for a nicer ride than the rock that it is now!
The SAS was just too rich for my blood and with the reviews I have read and searched on the Platinum, it was an easy choice!
Bart answered every email in a timely fashion and knows his stuff when asked about this product.
Looking forward to installing this unit and airing my baby up for a nicer ride than the rock that it is now!
The SAS was just too rich for my blood and with the reviews I have read and searched on the Platinum, it was an easy choice!
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Bluey,
To answer your question about how many buttons on the Platinum Bleed - Feed, there are two switches. One controls the height and the other the bounce or rebound. Are they bouncy or bottom out? Not really bouncy, as you adjust the amount of rebound by pressurizng the shocks. The Platinum bleed - feed cannot bottom out by it's self. I lower my Heritage to the stops and take it up about a 1/2" and adjust the bounce there. Rides better than stock. If your heading into the twisties, just hit the raise switch.
The Platinum simple system raises and lowers only. Hope that helps.
P.S. My bike below is about 1/2" off the stops.
To answer your question about how many buttons on the Platinum Bleed - Feed, there are two switches. One controls the height and the other the bounce or rebound. Are they bouncy or bottom out? Not really bouncy, as you adjust the amount of rebound by pressurizng the shocks. The Platinum bleed - feed cannot bottom out by it's self. I lower my Heritage to the stops and take it up about a 1/2" and adjust the bounce there. Rides better than stock. If your heading into the twisties, just hit the raise switch.
The Platinum simple system raises and lowers only. Hope that helps.
P.S. My bike below is about 1/2" off the stops.
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Bluey,
To answer your question about how many buttons on the Platinum Bleed - Feed, there are two switches. One controls the height and the other the bounce or rebound. Are they bouncy or bottom out? Not really bouncy, as you adjust the amount of rebound by pressurizng the shocks. The Platinum bleed - feed cannot bottom out by it's self. I lower my Heritage to the stops and take it up about a 1/2" and adjust the bounce there. Rides better than stock. If your heading into the twisties, just hit the raise switch.
The Platinum simple system raises and lowers only. Hope that helps.
P.S. My bike below is about 1/2" off the stops.
To answer your question about how many buttons on the Platinum Bleed - Feed, there are two switches. One controls the height and the other the bounce or rebound. Are they bouncy or bottom out? Not really bouncy, as you adjust the amount of rebound by pressurizng the shocks. The Platinum bleed - feed cannot bottom out by it's self. I lower my Heritage to the stops and take it up about a 1/2" and adjust the bounce there. Rides better than stock. If your heading into the twisties, just hit the raise switch.
The Platinum simple system raises and lowers only. Hope that helps.
P.S. My bike below is about 1/2" off the stops.
Is there a video somewhere that shows the speed or reaction time of the unit working?
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G'day guys,
I picked up a used 8 month old SAS unit for $1550 AUD.
The local dealer quoted me $2900 delivered and I believe that didn't include the switch gear. The guy I purchased from paid $3300 AUD fitted to his bike.
I looked at getting the Platinum unit from the US but with customs duty, entry fees and GST the cost was just outside my budget.
The SAS was very easy to fit and the unit performs quite well. Very very different from the standard setup in ride. I have never had air suspension before but found it easy to get used to.
One small issue I have with the SAS units is the damping control is a combined single function unit, that is, the compression and rebound are adjusted with a single adjuster. It would be nice to have separate controls. But saying that it works pretty well, certainly far superior to the standard unit that has no adjustment at all! The standard setting of 1.5 turns was too little damping and I found it bounced too much and I was losing traction on the rear wheel in the large bumps and rough corners. I changed it to 1 turn and there was too much damping and made the ride too stiff for me. At 1.25 turns it is almost perfect.
It seems the air reaction time is much quicker than spring, also softer ride until you hits nasty potholes and very rough roads (we have sh@t loads of bad roads round here).
I have tried it two up and hammered it over bumps solo and it has not bottomed out yet. I have slightly heavier fork oil but i think I will change that back to standard as the front now seems too firm.
If you are like me and change your load regularly, as in carrying a pillion, gear and have variable road conditions they are great. The ability to make quick changes on the go makes these units great for people in a similar situation.
At this stage I am happy with this unit and have no qualms about recommending it as a positive upgrade.
I cannot recommend their support though! I sent them a query about fitting and have had no response? That may be different in the US, one could only hope so.
Sorry about the marathon read
The pic below shows the bike slammed to the stops.
I picked up a used 8 month old SAS unit for $1550 AUD.
The local dealer quoted me $2900 delivered and I believe that didn't include the switch gear. The guy I purchased from paid $3300 AUD fitted to his bike.
I looked at getting the Platinum unit from the US but with customs duty, entry fees and GST the cost was just outside my budget.
The SAS was very easy to fit and the unit performs quite well. Very very different from the standard setup in ride. I have never had air suspension before but found it easy to get used to.
One small issue I have with the SAS units is the damping control is a combined single function unit, that is, the compression and rebound are adjusted with a single adjuster. It would be nice to have separate controls. But saying that it works pretty well, certainly far superior to the standard unit that has no adjustment at all! The standard setting of 1.5 turns was too little damping and I found it bounced too much and I was losing traction on the rear wheel in the large bumps and rough corners. I changed it to 1 turn and there was too much damping and made the ride too stiff for me. At 1.25 turns it is almost perfect.
It seems the air reaction time is much quicker than spring, also softer ride until you hits nasty potholes and very rough roads (we have sh@t loads of bad roads round here).
I have tried it two up and hammered it over bumps solo and it has not bottomed out yet. I have slightly heavier fork oil but i think I will change that back to standard as the front now seems too firm.
If you are like me and change your load regularly, as in carrying a pillion, gear and have variable road conditions they are great. The ability to make quick changes on the go makes these units great for people in a similar situation.
At this stage I am happy with this unit and have no qualms about recommending it as a positive upgrade.
I cannot recommend their support though! I sent them a query about fitting and have had no response? That may be different in the US, one could only hope so.
Sorry about the marathon read
The pic below shows the bike slammed to the stops.
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