DSP for two speakers in a batwing
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 0
From: Nor-Kal
DSP for two speakers in a batwing
I am curious if anybody is running a DSP for two speakers in a batwing.
Can you tell me about the source / amp / speakers used with the DSP?
What kind of tuning are you using the DSP for? I imagine subsonic filter, crossover settings and a lot of EQ... Anything else going on that I am not considering here?
What difference do you notice in the sound with the DSP while riding the motorcycle down the road?
I am trying to understand the use of a DSP in a two speaker install where there isn't time alignment etc. going on.
Thanks!
Can you tell me about the source / amp / speakers used with the DSP?
What kind of tuning are you using the DSP for? I imagine subsonic filter, crossover settings and a lot of EQ... Anything else going on that I am not considering here?
What difference do you notice in the sound with the DSP while riding the motorcycle down the road?
I am trying to understand the use of a DSP in a two speaker install where there isn't time alignment etc. going on.
Thanks!
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 3,854
Likes: 1,002
From: Southern Virginia
For me the main advantage was to warm up the sound. We have to push these speakers much harder than they would normally be run to hear them good at highway speeds. That tends to make them sound harsh. I was able to easily drop the mids a little bit to warm things up without really knowing much about what I was doing.
Crossover adjustments are very easy and precise with a DSP as well.
Crossover adjustments are very easy and precise with a DSP as well.
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 0
From: Nor-Kal
For me the main advantage was to warm up the sound. We have to push these speakers much harder than they would normally be run to hear them good at highway speeds. That tends to make them sound harsh. I was able to easily drop the mids a little bit to warm things up without really knowing much about what I was doing.
Crossover adjustments are very easy and precise with a DSP as well.
Crossover adjustments are very easy and precise with a DSP as well.
Which DSP are you using?
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 3,854
Likes: 1,002
From: Southern Virginia
I am using the Arc PSM. I had Iron Cross Audio add preamp outputs to my stock HK head unit and I feed it with that.
I hear what you are saying as far as multiple tunes. The Arc can store up to four different tunes that can be switched with an accessory remote ****. I don't get into that stuff though. About the only on the fly adjustment I do is a notch or two on the Bass and Fader depending on what helmet or jacket I am wearing and in some cases a windshield swap. As far as wind noise I have Automatic Volume Control to take care of that (cue the shouting and hollering that it shouldn't be used with amps).
For a simple two speaker setup I would be tempted to try the Dayton unit. It's a lot cheaper than the Arc and with only two RCAs going in and two going out it might not take up too much space.
On some other forums I have heard some guys say they like the MiniDSp 2x4 for simple setups but I have never tried one myself.
miniDSP 2x4
I hear what you are saying as far as multiple tunes. The Arc can store up to four different tunes that can be switched with an accessory remote ****. I don't get into that stuff though. About the only on the fly adjustment I do is a notch or two on the Bass and Fader depending on what helmet or jacket I am wearing and in some cases a windshield swap. As far as wind noise I have Automatic Volume Control to take care of that (cue the shouting and hollering that it shouldn't be used with amps).
For a simple two speaker setup I would be tempted to try the Dayton unit. It's a lot cheaper than the Arc and with only two RCAs going in and two going out it might not take up too much space.
On some other forums I have heard some guys say they like the MiniDSp 2x4 for simple setups but I have never tried one myself.
miniDSP 2x4
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 2,218
Likes: 672
From: Andover, MN
Do you have multiple tunes that you can switch between depending on where you are riding / how fast you're going? It'd be cool if there was a DSP that could take speed / wind noise in to consideration and retune on the fly.. I haven't seen such a beast yet..
Which DSP are you using?
Which DSP are you using?
If you are wanting a tune for every type of riding situation, I think you're going to be chasing a very fast unicorn that might be hard to catch. And not sure it would be worth it. If I'm out riding and cranking tunes, I'm not going to be worrying about every different environment situation and adjust my tune to it. But that's just me.
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 0
From: Nor-Kal
was just dreaming of the perfect Unicorn, I totally get what you're saying. I am used to sacrifices in mobile audio, there is no perfect setup, especially on a motorcycle, so you have to compromise. I lived with the Arc / Hertz speakers for eight years, they served me well.. Now that one of the speakers gave up the ghost it's time for me to update some things, I am trying to determine how far I am going to take it.
The last stereo system I built was a year ago for the Corvette I recently sold, Alpine ILX-207, Arc DSP Pro, Arc 1200.6 to active Stereo Integrity three ways, Arc Audio 1100.1 to two JL 10w3's... The time alignment in the DSP REALLY made all of that come together, the system sounded good with Aerosmith, Metallica, Skrillex, Garth Brooks, Ice Cube, it really doesn't matter what I played it sounded great, sub-level was all I ever adjusted...
The motorcycle is a whole different proposition to me, I just want it to be clear, loud and RELIABLE with as much frequency bandwidth as possible. I am hoping that I can cross these GZ Yellows down to 60 or 70hz and push them hard.
The last stereo system I built was a year ago for the Corvette I recently sold, Alpine ILX-207, Arc DSP Pro, Arc 1200.6 to active Stereo Integrity three ways, Arc Audio 1100.1 to two JL 10w3's... The time alignment in the DSP REALLY made all of that come together, the system sounded good with Aerosmith, Metallica, Skrillex, Garth Brooks, Ice Cube, it really doesn't matter what I played it sounded great, sub-level was all I ever adjusted...
The motorcycle is a whole different proposition to me, I just want it to be clear, loud and RELIABLE with as much frequency bandwidth as possible. I am hoping that I can cross these GZ Yellows down to 60 or 70hz and push them hard.
Banned
Joined: Feb 2021
Posts: 641
Likes: 110
From: Ohio
Trending Topics
Club Member
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 7,618
Likes: 10,437
From: Des moines IA
I have a 14 Limited. At the onset of my audio escapade, I had 2 fairing speakers and BT line leveler. Then went to 4 speakers and the line leveler. Hands down the addition of the Arc Psm made all the difference in sound quality.
That said, I have the Boom head unit that, at the time, inherently has a god awful eq curve built into the bin file. In addition, the eq curve drastically changed between run and accessory. The separate tunes between run and accessory allowed a different tune for each.
That said, I have the Boom head unit that, at the time, inherently has a god awful eq curve built into the bin file. In addition, the eq curve drastically changed between run and accessory. The separate tunes between run and accessory allowed a different tune for each.
HD Forum Stories
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles
Verdad Gallardo
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In
Verdad Gallardo
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?
Verdad Gallardo
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept
Verdad Gallardo
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II
Verdad Gallardo
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026
Verdad Gallardo
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post