Cooling a WG
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Data point 2: Test the oil filter
Attempt 1 results = No joy
Rollin along fat.., dumb and happy - out of nowhere - hit by a turd floater
Raining hard enough I pulled over and installed the socks - still spittered and sputtered like a bitch
As it not my intent to introduce impactful extraneous influences to these results - not posting today's - will rerun test 2
Weatherman just said it only supposed to get hotter this week - we got time
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Data point 2: Test the oil filter
Attempt 1 results = No joy
Rollin along fat.., dumb and happy - out of nowhere - hit by a turd floater
Raining hard enough I pulled over and installed the socks - still spittered and sputtered like a bitch
As it not my intent to introduce impactful extraneous influences to these results - not posting today's - will rerun test 2
Weatherman just said it only supposed to get hotter this week - we got time
Ghost
Attempt 1 results = No joy
Rollin along fat.., dumb and happy - out of nowhere - hit by a turd floater
Raining hard enough I pulled over and installed the socks - still spittered and sputtered like a bitch
As it not my intent to introduce impactful extraneous influences to these results - not posting today's - will rerun test 2
Weatherman just said it only supposed to get hotter this week - we got time
Ghost
I am very interested to see what your results are with the PCS4C; what is it really bringing to the table in the stock location.
But you know, Ghost? You missed on one cooling mod; you could have tested the PCS4C, and then mounted an oil filter relocation and tested again to put that all to rest once and for all...
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mainly around town, mountains, nothing to far yet, i have probably put on around 1500 miles with it on!
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Lot of work you are putting into this project, good karma to share your results with the community. And who doesn't like numbers ( well, sometimes numbers do get in the way of warm and fuzzy wishful thinking)?
I installed a permanent filter- one of DKs offerings with a very ugly Jagg 10 row fan assist vertical mount ( turns me on when the fan comes on at a stoplight after hard freeway run, and then goes off;run by thermostat, must be some cooling happening ;>)
While a totally subjective observation, I can say with complete confidence that cooling is taking place- before install, my oil, whether syn or VR1 conv. would be cooked ( blacker and thinner) after 2K of running; now looks good at same miles of run time, even after extended trip down south in 100+ ambient temps. Bike also makes less valve train noise, seems to be from better oil flow due to perm filter install, along with a mild but definite improvement in power. weird thing, take a run, bike is fairly hot, shut her down and bike seems to get hotter after a few minutes of sitting off, before oil cooler install was other way around.
Totally buy that engine damage, however mild, is occuring on stock twinkies when they get too hot ( anytime ambient temps over 90 and u r sitting in slow traffic). Lost a valve guide/broke valve spring on my scoot last year ( SS 583 cams with stock springs and guides, Hmmm), don't think it would have happened using this set-up, as she would just get clankity clanky when hot before, not very much at all now.
Anyways keep up the good work, man
I installed a permanent filter- one of DKs offerings with a very ugly Jagg 10 row fan assist vertical mount ( turns me on when the fan comes on at a stoplight after hard freeway run, and then goes off;run by thermostat, must be some cooling happening ;>)
While a totally subjective observation, I can say with complete confidence that cooling is taking place- before install, my oil, whether syn or VR1 conv. would be cooked ( blacker and thinner) after 2K of running; now looks good at same miles of run time, even after extended trip down south in 100+ ambient temps. Bike also makes less valve train noise, seems to be from better oil flow due to perm filter install, along with a mild but definite improvement in power. weird thing, take a run, bike is fairly hot, shut her down and bike seems to get hotter after a few minutes of sitting off, before oil cooler install was other way around.
Totally buy that engine damage, however mild, is occuring on stock twinkies when they get too hot ( anytime ambient temps over 90 and u r sitting in slow traffic). Lost a valve guide/broke valve spring on my scoot last year ( SS 583 cams with stock springs and guides, Hmmm), don't think it would have happened using this set-up, as she would just get clankity clanky when hot before, not very much at all now.
Anyways keep up the good work, man
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This thread ain't dead by a damn sight - mother nature just ain't cooperating
So.., and even if it has to carry over to next summer - this will get tested and reported
Need a 95 degree.., or hotter day for test two - four
In the meantime - drinking / smoking lamp lit
Ghost
So.., and even if it has to carry over to next summer - this will get tested and reported
Need a 95 degree.., or hotter day for test two - four
In the meantime - drinking / smoking lamp lit
Ghost
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Air Temp 93 degrees (7 degrees cooler than when I ran the initial baseline)
Results = no cooling improvement that I could detect (comparison pics)
Need to hook up the oil cooler for test 3 - however I seriously doubt it'll happen this year- running out of hot days
If it doesn't - there next summer
Ghost