Good stuff regardless. Thank you.

 

Very interesting! That seems to fall in line with those that say the permanent oil filters add perhaps 3° - 5° of additional cooling in the stock location; it would be difficult to pick it up on the JES analog oil temperature gauge. I love those permanent filters for their filtration performance and convenience and if they can add 3° - 5° in the stock location, that's a plus as well.

Winter is coming Great time to consider adding the 3Guyz oil filter relocation to your testing. A before and after would put that debate to rest. I still hold, based on my observations, that my permanent oil filter on the relocation does add additional cooling over the permanent in the stock location.

Keep up the good works, Ghost

 

Editing for accuracy

Baseline Air temp was 99..., Test 2 Air temp was 93 - that a delta of 6 degrees..., not 7

duh

Ghost

 

My thinking as well Sir (on all this..., and especially what is highlighted)

It also flows better


Winter down here (typically) not nearly what it is up North..., ice bout the only thing that slows it down


As to the oil filter relo - few random thoughts:

Be like adding two oil coolers - wonder if/ when too much cooling is - too much

Wonder what the effective surface area of the filter..., is..., compared to the wimmer (I may need to figure this one out)

Still on the fence as to having the oil filter out in front (hanging out in the breeze so to speak)



Can't disagree a bit - it a heat sink - that once relocated away from the heat generator - can be allowed to do its thing

Becomes simply a matter of effective surface area..., and heat transfer efficiency

Thank You Sir

btw..., don't get fed up with this place - enthusiasts are but a short lived bump in the road - put em in the rear view

I appreciate your tenacity..., and diligence to the details

Ghost

 

Absolutely. The higher oil flow rates, lower parasitic load on the engine, and built in rare earth magnet are all added positives of a permanent oil filter. Superior filtration, and ease of cleaning; they're a buy once, cry once proposition The PCS4C on my '13 as been on 2 other HD's before this Wide Glide.



The relocation is something you either like the look of, or you don't. I think it looks pretty trick sitting there and with the mess free ease of removing the oil filter, I'm glad it's there but I completely understand that some won't care for it due to the aesthetics of the oil filter mounted on the downtube.

I believe as long as you've got thermostatic control over the oil flow having both the Wimmer and the relocation won't be any issue but one thing to factor in with your Wide Glide is the limited space using a thermostatic adapter, the relocation engine adapter, and the forward controls.

I've got a +3" billet shift rod and even after re-plumbing the oil lines to the relocation and the oil cooler core several times couldn't come up with a solution that didn't put the oil lines in some tight bends so I deleted the thermostatic adapter to gain room.

The relocation and the core now run in series using 3 oil lines and under typical warm weather conditions it's not any sort of problem and engine temperatures are where I typically see them but I discovered in some early spring riding in some cold temperatures it did slow down engine warm up. On one particularly cold day I'd decided to change the engine oil so I took the bike out but with those low temperatures and the brisk north wind I was seeing some overly low engine temperatures on the Power Vision. When I got back and dropped the oil it wasn't what I'd call hot, at all

In my case losing thermostatic control is giving me too much of a good thing in cold temperatures. I've got the Power Vision back on the bike again, with the cool/cold of October and November now here I want to see if I need to revisit my strategy of how I've got the oil lines running.


I've seen images on sport bike forums of guys running the permanent oil filters having their lower body panels distorted from the heat that's radiating off the billet filter housings; that housing is indeed a heat sink. Getting it out in the wind on the downtube of an HD has to be bringing added cooling to the table.

Sage counsel I do appreciate your thoughts, and I will do just that...

 

Resurrecting this thread so it can be completed

Temperature foretasted to hit over a hundred next weekend (already - F me)

Since the motor upgraded - I'll re-baseline the temp - then add the remote oil filter..., note any improvement - post up the results

Things have changed - but the cooling remains the same - so we can essentially pick up where we left it last year

Ghost

 

Over 100... Just damn. Hopefully it's a dry heat. Up here the air is thick as paint. Even at 90 you just drip sweat. Evaporative cooling, HA!

 

In for the results as well. We are in the 90s all week and as I type this the humidity is 99%