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If any, it would probably be minor. The E-Series is a great pipe, but I’m really looking for better sound. Even with the fiberglass matting removed it’s very quiet. I want more/better sound, but without losing performance. So I can’t just throw some loud, crappy pipe on there. I want something good.
Not to "toot my own horn" but have you considered an RR3? I'm making solid numbers and I love the sound.
I've been running my chrome TH with black heat shields for four years now in NH. I ride in all conditions and haven't had a single problem. Don't listen to all of the negative BS from dudes that had brackets break and ****. The brackets have been beefed up for a few years now. Any problems that people have now is due to not properly lining up the exhaust while installing it. Best overall exhaust on the market
I've been running my chrome TH with black heat shields for four years now in NH. I ride in all conditions and haven't had a single problem. Don't listen to all of the negative BS from dudes that had brackets break and ****. The brackets have been beefed up for a few years now. Any problems that people have now is due to not properly lining up the exhaust while installing it. Best overall exhaust on the market
Most most commonly the cause including **** poor winter maintenance...
I've been running my chrome TH with black heat shields for four years now in NH. I ride in all conditions and haven't had a single problem. Don't listen to all of the negative BS from dudes that had brackets break and ****. The brackets have been beefed up for a few years now. Any problems that people have now is due to not properly lining up the exhaust while installing it. Best overall exhaust on the market
Even if the bracket on mine was beefed up, the entire thing still looked like my 8 year old welded it.
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Well I guess I’m going to find out. I decided abandon the plan and cancelled the order. Jamie was fine with it. I’m sure he’ll have no problem selling them once they arrive. Ordered the new Thunderheader from Dennis Kirk (they actually had them in stock and shipped TODAY!) as well as a set of heat shields. Should be here in a few days. According to their description, they have been redesigned for 2020 to support 18mm O2 bungs. Who knows. I may order one of the speed kings “unbreakable” brackets. Going to install it and make sure I like the volume and then going to have it blasted and have Cerakote C series high temp applied. So I’ll probably start a new thread since I’ve kicked Red Thunder back to sunny Monaco. Err, make that: snowy Appleton Wisconsin.
Well I guess I’m going to find out. I decided abandon the plan and cancelled the order. Jamie was fine with it. I’m sure he’ll have no problem selling them once they arrive. Ordered the new Thunderheader from Dennis Kirk (they actually had them in stock and shipped TODAY!) as well as a set of heat shields. Should be here in a few days. According to their description, they have been redesigned for 2020 to support 18mm O2 bungs. Who knows. I may order one of the speed kings “unbreakable” brackets. Going to install it and make sure I like the volume and then going to have it blasted and have Cerakote C series high temp applied. So I’ll probably start a new thread since I’ve kicked Red Thunder back to sunny Monaco. Err, make that: snowy Appleton Wisconsin.
I love Dennis Kirk. They've really came through on some otherwise "out of stock" things for me in the past. My only gripe is charging sales tax for online sales, but that's a minor thing. In most cases i'll gladly pay the tax just to get the item.
Originally Posted by Mchad
When mine arrives I’ll post a photo of what they are shipping now.
Just FYI, FuelMoto now has one extra Red Thunder in stock, so while I think most of what he’s getting have been sold, mine is up for grabs!
Definitely looking forward to that. I didn't purchase the one that was on my bike when I bought it so It could have been 10 years old for all I know. Hopefully it works out for you. As you already know you won't find a better sounding pipe.
Quote:I love Dennis Kirk. They've really came through on some otherwise "out of stock" things for me in the past. My only gripe is charging sales tax for online sales, but that's a minor thing. In most cases i'll gladly pay the tax just to get the item.
You guys don’t know how lucky you are, we can’t get anything without paying 19-25 % in tax ! !
Ok. So. I’m sure by now most of you know I’m a little (only a little?) nuts. So after I cancelled the RT order from Fuel Moto and ordered the Thunderheader from Dennis Kirk, I started reading and watching videos on the ThunderHeader. Sooo many raves, and sooo many complaints. Then I looked at Red Thunder reviews and really, nothing but good. Not nearly as many, but still.
So I got thinking and figured if I don’t try the Red Thunder, I’ll regret it. So what the hell. I had Jamie send me one. Got here today at around 3. Once I saw it “out for delivery” this morning, I pulled the existing pipe off and neatly laid it out on a towel. I’ll wrap it up and stash it in the attic, since they are no longer available. While taking it apart I was truly amazed at how well the high-temp Cerakote held up. Still looks brand new. Amazing stuff. Anyway.
Install was stupid easy. Each cylinder has its own pipe, which slip into the collector which is part of the muffler/collector unit. They are held in with really tight springs - that was the only pain in the entire job. Once together and tightened up, I wiped it down and started it up. Two mistakes. I forgot how much the initial heat of cerakote C series stinks. And I forgot to take out the EU DB killer. Wow, it stunk up my house. I quickly rolled it out and aired out the house. With my luck it’s probably seriously carcinogenic. Once done I started it up (outside) and let it idle until it stopped stinking, then went for a ride. Ran like ****. Way too rich. Bogging etc. Clearly that DB reducer really restricts flow. Would need an entirely new tune, or at least a half dozen auto tunes. Out with it!
Pulled in, let it cool down and promptly pulled the insert. Then started it for only a couple seconds in the garage as dinner was soon to be ready. Now it sounded good. Didn’t ride it so I have no idea how the tune is, but that will be tomorrow. All the natives are out hooting and hollering and firing off backyard fireworks, so I’m in for the night. We’ll see tomorrow.
Really quality workmanship, but not a single piece of paper in the box. Not that you really need it, but some instructions would have been nice. I found an install video on their site and a PDF of dramatically bad translation instructions.
Heat shields will be in the next order Jamie gets - I joked with him: “probably in 2022”
Ride report tomorrow. And another discussion on what to do with the gen-U-wine ThunderHeader on the way from DK...
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