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Carb or injection ?
Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 583
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From: KC
Not meaning to be anything but devils advocate here, but do you know exactly which brass to buy? Because you checked everything out at the temperature/humidity that you will ride most of the time? Or how many pieces of brass does that take, at 50 bucks a pop, to get it right? ;
Last bike I jetted gained a whopping 3hp on the dyno after making 4 extra runs and jetting richer between runs. Alas, it was all for naught as the bike was too rich and unrideable on the street so it was switched back to my settings and lived happily ever after. If I can find the dyno sheets I'll post them up as they show AFR's being damn near perfect throughout the entire range.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,763
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From: Minnesota
You obviously have a home computer, you don't need a lap top so, I spent $200 on my PCIII and tuned it once.
Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 583
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From: KC
As stated before I'm swapping cams, which means I need to buy a tuner. After much research I have deemed the TTS my choice in tuning hardware. This means that I will need a laptop.
Its just frustrating that what should be a $400 cam swap, has now, due to sophistication and technology, turned into a $1500 ordeal. I just hope that it turns out the way I want it when I'm done.
Its just frustrating that what should be a $400 cam swap, has now, due to sophistication and technology, turned into a $1500 ordeal. I just hope that it turns out the way I want it when I'm done.
Last edited by reded; Feb 28, 2009 at 02:19 PM.
Tourer
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 409
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From: Norwalk, Ohio
Considering that 98% of the driving world has been running electronic fuel injected vehicles since 1986, the reliability isn't an issue, just some people are scared of technology, and or change. EFI is great on bikes, hated revving and warming my carbed bikes up in the cold, the rain, the in between temps, etc. All those that preach carbs are cheaper and the evil cpu that runs FI bikes will fry and it is cheaper to work on a carb are entitled to their opinions. Once you embrace the technology, you'll never go back, except for nostalgic purposes.
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,440
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From: Northwest
There is no doubt that for tuning FI bikes, there is outlay in cash for equipment... unless you already have some of that equipment.... computer for example. Why does it take a laptop? For 500 bucks you can be damn sure I'd unhook my desktop system and move it to the garage for an afternoon. 
I already have all the other tools (wrenches, torque bar...etc...etc) as do most who are doing their own stuff, or they are thinking about getting it.
To me the tuner is another tool in my box, to help me get the bike running right, but it's a pretty damn versatile tool! One time buy, and I can tune my bike no matter what I might do to the engine..... and there is the second benefit... "I" can tune my bike... and in a matter of minutes.
Yeah, I remember the 'several' years that I just stood back and feared the ECM.... I did. But this backyard/garage mechanic educated himself on fuel injection systems.
I have nothing against carb'd bikes... like I said, this is my first FI bike since I started riding at 10yrs old.
I already have all the other tools (wrenches, torque bar...etc...etc) as do most who are doing their own stuff, or they are thinking about getting it.
To me the tuner is another tool in my box, to help me get the bike running right, but it's a pretty damn versatile tool! One time buy, and I can tune my bike no matter what I might do to the engine..... and there is the second benefit... "I" can tune my bike... and in a matter of minutes.
Yeah, I remember the 'several' years that I just stood back and feared the ECM.... I did. But this backyard/garage mechanic educated himself on fuel injection systems.
I have nothing against carb'd bikes... like I said, this is my first FI bike since I started riding at 10yrs old.
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Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 583
Likes: 2
From: KC
There is no doubt that for tuning FI bikes, there is outlay in cash for equipment... unless you already have some of that equipment.... computer for example. Why does it take a laptop? For 500 bucks you can be damn sure I'd unhook my desktop system and move it to the garage for an afternoon.
