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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 11:43 AM
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15 Limited. Stage 1, had tuned at the dealer when new with the HD SE Race Tuner. It always has sounded like marbles knocking around in the engine under heavy acceleration, full throttle above 4000 rpm. Other than that annoying marble sound it runs great. I also noticed it does it more when its hot out. Is it too lean? Normal?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 01:19 PM
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15 Limited. Stage 1, had tuned at the dealer when new with the HD SE Race Tuner. It always has sounded like marbles knocking around in the engine under heavy acceleration, full throttle above 4000 rpm. Other than that annoying marble sound it runs great. I also noticed it does it more when its hot out. Is it too lean? Normal?
Doubt that the tune was done with the SERT which was abandoned by MoCo many years back; probably tuned with the SEPST. Dealers don't have a good track record when it comes to tuning. They probably downloaded a map, tweaked a bit and called it good. The motor needs a proper tune.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 02:21 PM
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I agree. Marbles sound is usually detonation, not full blown knocking.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 03:39 PM
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I hate to ask the obvious, but... what octane fuel do you run?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 10:55 PM
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91 - Premium here in AZ.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 11:20 PM
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Cool Link...

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...gs-for-me.html
it's not the fuel...but the lack of it ...
the stock tunes are just way too lean ...worst in hot , thin air !!!
good luck ...
 

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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 09:37 AM
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91 - Premium here in AZ.
Then I'd suggest you are, in fact, running too lean still.

I had a dealer tune done. The first time, it pinged (pre-detonation). I checked the AF ratio with my power vision - they'd set it to 14.4 - I went back and had them reset the default to 14.0 and the pinging disappeared.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 07:31 PM
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I had the same issue. Get a good dyno tune and enjoy your bike.
 
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Trask did a dyno tune this week, it was detonation. Timing was off above 4000 rpm. Runs great now.
 
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