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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 09:11 AM
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1997 FXDWG. Stock engine. Cv carb- 48/180 jets. Arlen ness big sucker 2 air cleaner.

So Ive been trying to get the bike started every week or so since the temp dropped to the 40s. But I cant get it started. Battery is charged fully. Charging system tested and good. No intake or exhaust leaks.

Once I let the start button go, there is a stream of white or light gray smoke that comes out of the air cleaner. Every time I try to start it. Let go- smoke. I also noticed oil coming out when I took off air cleaner to look into carb. I know I have a base gasket leak already, but what could a little oil coming out of both of the heads mean?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 12:54 PM
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There are a lot of questions you're going to have to answer in order to get some good advice, but for starters, I would do a compression test. The results may explain all of your symptoms or at least point you to something else.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 03:24 PM
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are you using the choke/enrichner when attempting to start the bike?
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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 03:27 PM
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are you using the choke/enrichner when attempting to start the bike?
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Yes. Ive tried it all the way and halfway. Seem to get same results
 
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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 03:30 PM
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There are a lot of questions you're going to have to answer in order to get some good advice, but for starters, I would do a compression test. The results may explain all of your symptoms or at least point you to something else.
manual says 90psi. Any lower is bad and any variation between both heads is all bad correct?

if it is under 90, what is the next step
 
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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 03:37 PM
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I have the same problem with my softail if I let it sit for more than 3 weeks. My opinion is that the bike is wet sumping oil into the cam chest.

what I do is unplug the spark plug wires, crank it for a few seconds, stop, crank for a few seconds, put the plug wires back on, engage the choke and start it up. All that oil is weighing down on the crank causing the smoke.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BiggCliff412
manual says 90psi. Any lower is bad and any variation between both heads is all bad correct?

if it is under 90, what is the next step
If they come in under 90 and or there's more than a 10% variance between the two, then I would start looking for what is causing the combustion chamber not to seal. Could be an issue with the valves or piston rings. But the more I think about it, I have to ask, are you sure you're getting spark and fuel? I don't have a clue to the history of the bike so I'm assuming it was running fine and then you parked it for awhile and now you got problems.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 07:08 AM
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If they come in under 90 and or there's more than a 10% variance between the two, then I would start looking for what is causing the combustion chamber not to seal. Could be an issue with the valves or piston rings. But the more I think about it, I have to ask, are you sure you're getting spark and fuel? I don't have a clue to the history of the bike so I'm assuming it was running fine and then you parked it for awhile and now you got problems.
It wasnt running in peak condition, but it was running and ridable for the most part. Main issue stemmed from an intake leak, but once that was corrected , 2 or 3 weeks later, it totally **** the bed on me. Took it to a local shop that got me running and they told me the only issue was a base gasket leak.
 
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Put a fresh set of plugs in it and try again.

And fight the impulse to start the bike every week during the off season, just leave it be.
 

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Old Jan 17, 2020 | 08:48 AM
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the white smoke is atomized fuel and is a normal thing at cold temps. also, with the oil so cold, it cannot drain that well from the head separation chambers and will get blown out the breather ports.
cold temp also makes metal change size. if it ran well before, try putting a heater next to it to help starting it, sorta like block heaters for cars. i still would follow the above advise but do so with the engine warm, if marginal, will only get worst as temps fall.
 
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