Engine Tapping Sound
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In this 107" motor's case, I rode it for at east a month with the knocking squeaking trying to blow the motor. When I decided to tear it down I found lots of brass in the oil from the flywheel thrust washers, but no bearings were there yet. This was a stock lower end, so no surprise due to the way it was ridden.
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Lifters are a limited-life, service item, you should never let them go past 50K miles, without at least inspecting them. I am amazed your bike got to 240K, if it in fact has that many miles on it without a lifter and tensioner service.
I would suggest you create a proper service schedule for your bike...
I would suggest you create a proper service schedule for your bike...
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I like the Screamin' Eagle Ventilator Air Cleaner. It's low profile provides me with increased leg room for a more comfortable ride. It's exposed air cleaner element provides increased air-flow. As mentioned in post #1, I also have a Dynojet Power Vision to adjust the tune.
The recorded format was originally MPEG-4 Audio or "m4a:", from my iPhone. That seems to be an unsupported file format to use for uploading to HDForums. I converted the audio file to "mp3", so that I could upload the sound file. What format do you need?
Fall season is prime riding time for me. Rebuild over the winter months is preferable. I do have towing insurance. Both AAA Premier/RV that has 200 mile towing and HOG towing from my lifetime HOG membership.
I pulled the trigger and ordered the S&S TC3 pump and plate. Received it yesterday. It was expensive, but since I'm doing the work myself, thought I'd splurge.
Ordered the following parts from my local HD dealer. This will get me both chains.
Camshaft Chain & Fastener Kit: HD #25585-06
Secondary Cam Drive Chain: HD #25683-06
I'll check run out and take lots of pictures.
I'll probably also be asking various questions......
The recorded format was originally MPEG-4 Audio or "m4a:", from my iPhone. That seems to be an unsupported file format to use for uploading to HDForums. I converted the audio file to "mp3", so that I could upload the sound file. What format do you need?
To me it definitely sounds like a lifter collapsed and what I'm hearing is a loose pushrod in the rocker arm.. I wouldn't tear down the top end but cut the pushrods, seeing you have new adjustables.. Carefully inspect the ball ends of the pushrods for abnormal wear , especially the top. If so you will need to disassemble the top end to inspect the rockers.. 240k is a lot of miles.. I would do the S&S TC3 pump and plate.. Best out there.. Don't forget to check pinion run out.. Curios to see what the pinion shaft did to the OEM cam plate.. Also for $100 I would probably be doing both chains..
Don't forget, A lot of Pic's..
Note: before you purchase anything do the tear down and inspect first.. Then make your list..
Don't forget, A lot of Pic's..
Note: before you purchase anything do the tear down and inspect first.. Then make your list..
Ordered the following parts from my local HD dealer. This will get me both chains.
Camshaft Chain & Fastener Kit: HD #25585-06
Secondary Cam Drive Chain: HD #25683-06
I'll check run out and take lots of pictures.
I'll probably also be asking various questions......
Last edited by LQQK_OUT; Sep 20, 2024 at 04:27 AM.
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At that mileage, any tapping sounds are a clear message to open up the cam chest.
The lifters don`t owe you a thing.
I would also replace inner cam bearings and the cam chain tensioners.
http://www.larrysmotorcyclemachine.com/lifters.html
The lifters don`t owe you a thing.
I would also replace inner cam bearings and the cam chain tensioners.
http://www.larrysmotorcyclemachine.com/lifters.html
Cams: Andrews 48H
Pushrods: Fuel Moto EZ Quick Install adjustable pushrods for H-D Milwaukee-8 and Twin Cam engines, SKU: FM-PR-EZ
Lifters: S&S Cycle Premium High Performance Tappets, 330-0175
Head Gasket: Cometic Gasket Head Gasket - MLS - Standard Bore 3.70" - .040" - C9745
Cam Service Gasket Kit: Cometic C9664 Gasket CAM Kit GSTK 99-17 0934-0786
Inner Cam Bearing: 2 x Koyo/Torrington B-168
TC96 Cam Spacer Kit: HD #25928-06
Breather Baffle Assembly, 2 x HD #26500002
Cam Chain Tensioner Pads: 2
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Lifters are a limited-life, service item, you should never let them go past 50K miles, without at least inspecting them. I am amazed your bike got to 240K, if it in fact has that many miles on it without a lifter and tensioner service.
I would suggest you create a proper service schedule for your bike...
I would suggest you create a proper service schedule for your bike...
Why do you say a lifter shouldn't go past 50K? My 1993 Fatboy must have over 80K on it's lifters.
I think I maintain my motorcycles. They've been fairly reliable.
I'm on my third compensator, OEM compensator, SE Compensator and the second SE compensator.
Last year (August 2023, 207,714 miles), I had to replace the crank sprocket shaft oil seal since engine oil was flowing into the primary.
And I only use Mobil-1 15-50 car oil from the 5-quart jug at Walmart.
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A lifter can go past 50, but it is a time to start thinking about it. If it lets loose you loose your engine. Buddy m8 lifter went out, they gave him a new engine.
If it is making noise, I think poor idea to ride. You risk bottom end.
If it is making noise, I think poor idea to ride. You risk bottom end.
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As for your plan to be towed home, you can wait for hours. I use my bike for work. If you had 3 beers and are .o..081 and cop asks if you need help, dui.
But I just don't want to wait for hours for tow truck.
Get a ow truck on a Sunday. Plus so many areas without cell coverage, even near big cities
But I just don't want to wait for hours for tow truck.
Get a ow truck on a Sunday. Plus so many areas without cell coverage, even near big cities
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The 50000 mile limit was put on EVO lifters. TC amd M8 are different. There is an issue with 99c lifters tho. The roller pin can come loose due to its change in design. Still lifters cam make the mileage if on the right side of the specs.