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Old Apr 7, 2018 | 05:23 PM
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Default 210 psi front, 260 rear, WTF?

If you're following my build you'll know what I'm going. Basically I developed what i"m not sure is a problem or not. The bike has a very pronounced metallic knock at idle and light acceleration, but it goes away once the bike is moving along well. I did a compression test, not motor, WFO throttle and that's what I got. What could cause this?
 
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Whoever the ******* was that put the pushrods in they didn't set the intake pushrod on the rear cylinder. Never using that builder again...

Still got a weird knock at idle and light throttle, not sure if it's just noisy valvetrain or I smoked a piston and that's piston slap. Might hafta tear her down for an inspection.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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Seems like a lot of compression for pump gas, but my building experience is with in line 4s, not Harleys. 210 is normal for a in line 4 with 13.5 to 1 pistons. Not apples to apples, just my experience
 
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Still got a weird knock at idle and light throttle, not sure if it's just noisy valvetrain or I smoked a piston and that's piston slap. Might hafta tear her down for an inspection.
A smoked piston sound will usually be undetectable at cold start up and get louder with heat. It most of the time is heard all the way thru the rpm's once warmed up.
Valve train noise is a tick and will be louder at idle and mostly when the engine is hot from oil thinning.
A aggressive cam puts out more of a metallic clacking sound heard at idle and low rpms. It will make the same noise on all 4 cam lobes, not just the front like a oiling issue.
If you have a Andrews or Woods cam you need to set the lifter depth to .150 instead of .100 like a common cammed Evo, a aggressive cam noise can be tamed by a deeper setting.
 
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Yea, smoked piston, noise was piston slap from the .025" clearance after damage was done. See my build thread for pics.
 
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Typically a cam that has not been timed properly to the crank will make a difference in compression from front to rear. Roughly 30+ psi. You have 50 psi,
that's a lot and for it to be as high as it is it sounds as if it was advanced a tooth...
 
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That's what the issue was. My rear intake was completely out by the whole travel of the lifter. Basically I never preloaded the pushrod, then when it ran the lifter bled down but there was a lot of play in the pushrod. Due to this now the intake duration is narrower, and also less lift. Sooner intake close causes increased cranking compression.

I fixed the pushrod and that fixed the compression issue.
 
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Cool, glad you got it.... Sorry about the rest though... I've blown a couple motors myself...
 
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Thanks man. On the plus side, the last Harley I blew up the one bike I kept the longest and enjoyed the most. Maybe this is a sign.
 
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