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Ugh. No, I am not going to forget everything I have seen on youtube, that is just plain ridiculous, period. There are some excellent channels from very experienced and competent builders if you look. And I wasn't asking how to adjust lifters, or what cams need which rods. I am asking about the oil in hydraulic lifters.
Forget what I have, it's not important. I would like to know is: if a bike has been sitting a while with a lifter on a cam lobe holding open a valve all day, I would expect it to be bled down from the pushrod pressure, just as it does a while after you've adjusted it. Isn't this why some bikes tap some when started cold until the lifters pump up? So if it is already bled down, what happens when you put that lifter on a cam heel and take up the slack before putting the proper number of flats on it? This is where I become confused.
If this has already been explained, please tell me again. Can be hard to pull the useful and to the point info from the noise sometimes.
Some will leak down, sometimes not. A quality will never rattle on start-up though they can appear to leak off quickly when adjusting..
There is a spring inside the tappet that will hold enough pressure to adjust it correctly even if it leaked down. Others may open a valve while extending the push rod. That situation requires you wait until that valve bleeds off before proceeding.
If this doesn't explain it to your understanding, I suggest you get into the job and post again if you run into issues or have questions..
Ugh. No, I am not going to forget everything I have seen on youtube, that is just plain ridiculous, period. There are some excellent channels from very experienced and competent builders if you look. And I wasn't asking how to adjust lifters, or what cams need which rods. I am asking about the oil in hydraulic lifters.
Forget what I have, it's not important. I would like to know is: if a bike has been sitting a while with a lifter on a cam lobe holding open a valve all day, I would expect it to be bled down from the pushrod pressure, just as it does a while after you've adjusted it. Isn't this why some bikes tap some when started cold until the lifters pump up? So if it is already bled down, what happens when you put that lifter on a cam heel and take up the slack before putting the proper number of flats on it? This is where I become confused.
If this has already been explained, please tell me again. Can be hard to pull the useful and to the point info from the noise sometimes.
Adjustment is the same, bled or not, you just need to be more careful when setting Zero Lash if it is not pumped up....you are definitely over-thinking this. You don't check the adjustment on a hydro lifter if it is working OK, you can only check the adjustment on a hydro if you collapse the pushrod first and start again.
That's the difference between Shovelhead hydraulic units and tappets on an Evo.. Shovel starts at the bottom and an Evo tappet adjusts starting at the top.
That's the difference between Shovelhead hydraulic units and tappets on an Evo.. Shovel starts at the bottom and an Evo tappet adjusts starting at the top.
?????? What do you mean? You can adjust from the bottom up on shovel but I have never done it nor heard of anybody who does.
Last edited by Spanners39; Sep 23, 2025 at 07:30 PM.
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