It is Official,
Dirt don't hurt
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From: Haslet Texas
I'm with you on the Evo is the end of a legacy put still want everyone to know that the EGR valved Harley will be the future to meet the treehuggers demands. Say it ain't so but look at the pattern of engines, gas-egr, diesel-egr, Harley now has coolant which will follow mechanical patterns of cooling spent gases to be resent back into the combustion chamber, the cat exhaust that showed up is just an introductory to doom.
The ace in the hole is the regenerating DPF exhaust system, hope this one doesn't make it to Harley but look at DEF in Chevy powered trucks, who would of thought this garbage system would exist 10 years ago. Lets just keep plugging away with our Evo's and let technology bypass us
The ace in the hole is the regenerating DPF exhaust system, hope this one doesn't make it to Harley but look at DEF in Chevy powered trucks, who would of thought this garbage system would exist 10 years ago. Lets just keep plugging away with our Evo's and let technology bypass us
Road Captain
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From: southeast Indiana
All for it
I'm all for Harley going water cooling on their new offerings. It's the sign of the times. I'm pretty sure that I'll wait to buy one. At my age I probably have my last bike anyway. Unknown bugs will occur for sure. I bought a 2007 Ultra with the new 6 speed tranny...it was a mistake. They've got that all sorted out now. I expect the same for the steam heads.
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From: Coromandel Peninsula New Zealand
I'm with you on the Evo is the end of a legacy put still want everyone to know that the EGR valved Harley will be the future to meet the treehuggers demands. Say it ain't so but look at the pattern of engines, gas-egr, diesel-egr, Harley now has coolant which will follow mechanical patterns of cooling spent gases to be resent back into the combustion chamber, the cat exhaust that showed up is just an introductory to doom.
The ace in the hole is the regenerating DPF exhaust system, hope this one doesn't make it to Harley but look at DEF in Chevy powered trucks, who would of thought this garbage system would exist 10 years ago. Lets just keep plugging away with our Evo's and let technology bypass us
The ace in the hole is the regenerating DPF exhaust system, hope this one doesn't make it to Harley but look at DEF in Chevy powered trucks, who would of thought this garbage system would exist 10 years ago. Lets just keep plugging away with our Evo's and let technology bypass us
As long as there is aftermarket we are saved.....
Road Warrior
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From: Lakeville, MN
Remember Bertha? I was filling her after a long highway ride and found out the gasket under the fuel gauge sending unit failed....gas flowing down the side of the tank steaming on the motor......all while a guy on a Yamaha V-Star was talking to me.....
THAT could have been BAD.........
THAT could have been BAD.........
THAT is where my Classic is leaking from. It looks to be a straightforward fix, yes? Does it come with a new gasket and you just plop the new one in there and attach the two wires? (sorry to hijack the thread momentarily)
Steamhead. That's funny. I think the MoCo has water on the brain. Read on! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus
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From: Indiana
THAT is where my Classic is leaking from. It looks to be a straightforward fix, yes? Does it come with a new gasket and you just plop the new one in there and attach the two wires? (sorry to hijack the thread momentarily)
Steamhead. That's funny. I think the MoCo has water on the brain. Read on! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus
Steamhead. That's funny. I think the MoCo has water on the brain. Read on! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus
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From: Ohio
Hear ya Spanners, as long as HD can meet emissions, the market will stay flooded with company's trying to undoit 
Technology riders may look at the Evo and carbs as dinosaurs, my outlook is the diesel truck market has been destroyed by technology, emissions, calibrations and inflated parts prices for emission garbage, cost of repairs are transfered to the consumer by freight costs. I oversee repairs of EFI and emissions daily in a large truck dealership and in a way compare it to HD as far as holding people ransom, it's not heartwarming but technology has bypassed small shops and dealers are top of the food chain.
I can handle EFI but going to go out to the garage and make sure the jet boxes are full, HD will eventually through technology and computers lock out the small guy
Technology riders may look at the Evo and carbs as dinosaurs, my outlook is the diesel truck market has been destroyed by technology, emissions, calibrations and inflated parts prices for emission garbage, cost of repairs are transfered to the consumer by freight costs. I oversee repairs of EFI and emissions daily in a large truck dealership and in a way compare it to HD as far as holding people ransom, it's not heartwarming but technology has bypassed small shops and dealers are top of the food chain.
I can handle EFI but going to go out to the garage and make sure the jet boxes are full, HD will eventually through technology and computers lock out the small guy
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From: Coromandel Peninsula New Zealand
I'm not sure I agree...when it gets too bad there will be small guys converting bikes back to Delphi EFI and Carbies....and there will be a growing mountain of take off emission gear piling up at the back of their workshops
Road Master
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From: Alvin TX
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From: Coromandel Peninsula New Zealand
Not really down here in the states the tree hugging Government will or has laws about changing to many parts on certan year models , On diesel trucks from 07 newer you cant change or get cought changing engine parts to help make it run better or get better MPG same on motorcycles
Here in NZ we don't have emissions tests, you can do pretty much what you like to your bike and can import just about any motorcycle you like from anywhere in the world...I think in a few years I will get me a fleet of Evo's together, with loud pipes and carbies and run "Biker Nostalgia Tours" for all the poor buggers who live in Big Brother countries