missing shifts (false neutral)
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2007
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From: Minneapolis Area, MN
...I have a fair amount of "slop" at the shift arm on the inner primary (checked against similiar bikes of the era *1998 FLHRCI*, and they have about the same back and forth slop). the arm is not stripped at the splines, and the arm itself is SOLID on the bar going into the tranny, but again, just a good amount of wiggle before it feels like its engaged on the shift drum...
I went from occasional missed shifts to the tranny occasionally and momentarily slipping. The slipping was the face driving gear becoming disengaged from its mating gear which caused some major deformation of the shifter forks and a lot of metal trash in the bottom of the pan!
Now I'm going into the tranny and replacing everything but the case.
I suggest you get rid of the shifter shaft slop.
Put a new pawl and the ignition kill drum in and go back to banging on it. With the kill drum you don't even worry about the clutch just WFO bang , bang, bang, and watch your time slip go down, down, down.
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From: Poolville
It momentarily kills or interrupts the ignition (motor stops making power) to allow for a full smoother shift without missing a gear. I believe they only have them for the five speed trans...
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Call Baker Drivetrain. I tried to find it in their site but could not, you'll have to call them.... 517-339-3835 Mark......
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Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2012
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From: Massachusetts
ignition kills arent exactly recommended for street/daily drivers
basically you remove the neutral switch, and replace it with a normally open (or closed? now i forget) version, and use that switch to trigger a momentary "kill" on your ignition. comes in VERY handy for drag racing (similiar to a sport bike quickshifter), instead of clutch in / let off throttle / upshift / clutch out-throttle on, you can literally pin it wide open and mash through the gears.
usually you wire the ignition kill through a switch (manually activated), so it's not always engaged.
downsides:
wide open shifting is HARD on driveline components (as is drag racing)
you lose your neutral light on the dash
if you forget to shut the switch off, the bike will shut off when you actually click it into neutral.
my roadking isnt much of a daily driver anymore (neither is the roadglide...actually got rid of it and got myself something a little more suited to speed, with the same kind of soul), so running an ignition kill with a pingle electric shifter would kind of be par for the course at this point, but I havent spent too much time on more upgrades recently.
basically you remove the neutral switch, and replace it with a normally open (or closed? now i forget) version, and use that switch to trigger a momentary "kill" on your ignition. comes in VERY handy for drag racing (similiar to a sport bike quickshifter), instead of clutch in / let off throttle / upshift / clutch out-throttle on, you can literally pin it wide open and mash through the gears.
usually you wire the ignition kill through a switch (manually activated), so it's not always engaged.
downsides:
wide open shifting is HARD on driveline components (as is drag racing)
you lose your neutral light on the dash
if you forget to shut the switch off, the bike will shut off when you actually click it into neutral.
my roadking isnt much of a daily driver anymore (neither is the roadglide...actually got rid of it and got myself something a little more suited to speed, with the same kind of soul), so running an ignition kill with a pingle electric shifter would kind of be par for the course at this point, but I havent spent too much time on more upgrades recently.
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From: Carlisle, Pa
Compatibility of 1999-2005 Gear sets
Jasper86, I read that you took an early Twinkie gearset to include trap door and installed it into your 1998?
I just ordered the Shift drum kit and shift link from Baker and am considering throwing an Early Twinkie gearset into my 1998 Road Glide.
I also have been missing shifts and having false neutrals way too many times.
I wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge and posting your comments. I learned a great deal about it.
Kenny Wise
I just ordered the Shift drum kit and shift link from Baker and am considering throwing an Early Twinkie gearset into my 1998 Road Glide.
I also have been missing shifts and having false neutrals way too many times.
I wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge and posting your comments. I learned a great deal about it.
Kenny Wise
