missing shifts (false neutral)
#51
06-04-2020, 04:57 PM
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Okay I stand corrected then, I was told that the 1998 Transmissions were exclusive to 1998 due to the larger clutch basket being a 9 disc design. I assumed that if the clutch basket was capable of holding 9 discs that it was different and unique from the rest. My apologies, I learned something new today.
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06-04-2020, 05:33 PM
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#53
06-06-2020, 10:44 AM
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For those of you that are still having problems with mishifts and hard to find neutral I suggest you replace the ***** in your ramp which are currently .375-in and go with a 10 mm (.3937") ball I have documented .018" more throw at the pressure plate which allows me to never miss a gear nothing... The whole thing didn't even cost me 30 bucks, bearings, gasket and fluid...
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02-18-2024, 08:32 PM
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we do two mods in this issue -
1 - the baker drum is the one and the baker lever as well with the fork type return spring
2 - the right side door has 2 small bearings and those bearings have a 3 ball contact // and in big power units they walk around, and this also causes a shift issue - sooo we replace them with 5 ball contact bearings, its a multi piece bearing and they dont move once installed as its also radial load type bearing
1 - the baker drum is the one and the baker lever as well with the fork type return spring
2 - the right side door has 2 small bearings and those bearings have a 3 ball contact // and in big power units they walk around, and this also causes a shift issue - sooo we replace them with 5 ball contact bearings, its a multi piece bearing and they dont move once installed as its also radial load type bearing
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02-18-2024, 08:46 PM
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So... I thought I would come back here and recommend this to anyone who has a 1998 Evo FLT or FLH 5 speed that also has false neutrals and missing shifts issues.
TAKE NOTE THAT IT WILL NOT WORK ON ANY EARLIER EVO'S DUE TO THE MAIN SHAFT BEING LONGER (9 Disc clutch), THIS IS AN UPGRADE FOR1998 ONLY!
That doesn't mean that your 1993 or whatever cant be upgraded, ANYTHING can be modified or upgraded but it will cost you more and you'll need to buy more parts like an inner primary maybe? Clutch hub? Etc etc...
Below is a link to the exact same gear set purchased that I purchased on Flea bay.
Simply upgrade that gearset with a Baker Shift drum, shifter pawl and Twinkie neutral switch and you'll be on business. No extra parts needed whatsoever.
The differences are literally night and day, TOTALLY SERIOUS.
NO MORE FALSE NEUTRALS DURING WOT SHIFTS!
You'd thank me later, just make sure you're a seasoned mechanic who has all of the special tools needed for a job of this nature to include Jim's inner race installation tool and a means of pressing in your final drive gear to the larger left side of the case.
I used no hammers whatsoever on my install.
I have roughly $600.00 into everything because I put new bearings and seals in throughout my transmission. I also had to pay for my Jim's puller/installation tool.
Best money I've spent on my bike.
Good luck!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303574456462
TAKE NOTE THAT IT WILL NOT WORK ON ANY EARLIER EVO'S DUE TO THE MAIN SHAFT BEING LONGER (9 Disc clutch), THIS IS AN UPGRADE FOR1998 ONLY!
That doesn't mean that your 1993 or whatever cant be upgraded, ANYTHING can be modified or upgraded but it will cost you more and you'll need to buy more parts like an inner primary maybe? Clutch hub? Etc etc...
Below is a link to the exact same gear set purchased that I purchased on Flea bay.
Simply upgrade that gearset with a Baker Shift drum, shifter pawl and Twinkie neutral switch and you'll be on business. No extra parts needed whatsoever.
The differences are literally night and day, TOTALLY SERIOUS.
NO MORE FALSE NEUTRALS DURING WOT SHIFTS!
You'd thank me later, just make sure you're a seasoned mechanic who has all of the special tools needed for a job of this nature to include Jim's inner race installation tool and a means of pressing in your final drive gear to the larger left side of the case.
I used no hammers whatsoever on my install.
I have roughly $600.00 into everything because I put new bearings and seals in throughout my transmission. I also had to pay for my Jim's puller/installation tool.
Best money I've spent on my bike.
Good luck!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303574456462
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