EFI touring models remap question
Tourer
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The dealer will sell you a SERT for about 400+ bucks.
TTS Mastertune can be got for 425 bucks.
If you get a SERT you will exhaust the usefullness in about 1 year. Plus the dealer will charge you, unless you learn how to to do yourself, about 75-100 per session unless it is a dyno session @ 150 hour.
The TTS Mastertune does it all. You buy it and you use it all you want. You just have to learn how it works. Not that hard.
TTS Mastertune can be got for 425 bucks.
If you get a SERT you will exhaust the usefullness in about 1 year. Plus the dealer will charge you, unless you learn how to to do yourself, about 75-100 per session unless it is a dyno session @ 150 hour.
The TTS Mastertune does it all. You buy it and you use it all you want. You just have to learn how it works. Not that hard.
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Road Master
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Does your bike have a stage I download in it now? If so, you're fine, don"t change a thing. Harley makes "canned MAPS" for stage I kits, they are a "safe", 50 state legal MAP for all stage I applications. If you were running a pipe and A/C, had the download and then changed the pipes, the download will still be fine for you.
You guys telling this guy to just throw more money at his bike is wrong, he obviosly doesn't want to get into self tuning, some people actually just want to ride their bikes, some people don't really care about getting the maximum performance out of their bikes. This guy soundslike 1 of them. I can appreciate giving props to the sponsors, but it's in every post anymore. The guy said he thought the slip ons were too expensive, so I doubt he wants to throw another 400 + on a tuner then have to learn how to tune it.
You guys telling this guy to just throw more money at his bike is wrong, he obviosly doesn't want to get into self tuning, some people actually just want to ride their bikes, some people don't really care about getting the maximum performance out of their bikes. This guy soundslike 1 of them. I can appreciate giving props to the sponsors, but it's in every post anymore. The guy said he thought the slip ons were too expensive, so I doubt he wants to throw another 400 + on a tuner then have to learn how to tune it.
I DO however and very much care that the bike runs properly and want to be sure that whatever I do to modify it doesn't damage it in the process. I have discovered with all the answers that I received that there a many options out there and being the numb-skull that I am it is all a bit overwhelming and some what confusing. With that being said - I am willing to pay out whatever it takes (with in reason!!!!) to assure that the bike will run great and run for a long time to come.
I hope that makes sense. So I guess that leads to the next question and that is what would everyone recommend for a fuel management "system" for my bike. and please be objective. I don't want to spend a "bazillion" dollars here. - Thank You all!
Road Warrior
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you will not damagee the engine ... the harley davidson programming that is in your ecm will not allow the engine to damage its self it is sort of a fail safe system .
The reason i suggested the ttts is . it is far superior to any tuning device on the market today including the sest.
also the TTS already has stage 1 maps in it ..
also in the future if you plan any other mods you will alreeady have the tuning device.
the power commander is also a good tuning devicee.
now with the TTS you can retreive the Stock map and save it just in case you decide to sell your bike and take off the parts and put the stock ones back on .
there are people who do that.
also the tts just like the sert and sest has data mode so if your bike throws a code you can see what code it is and clear it.
if you have a power commander you cannot clearr codes or see them.
there is no sales pitch i dont give a rats tail what you buy i am just trying to save you the BS that i went thru when i took the advice of people who thought they knew whaat they were talking about.
if you do decide to go with the TTS and need a map i will send you one .
FREE.
The reason i suggested the ttts is . it is far superior to any tuning device on the market today including the sest.
also the TTS already has stage 1 maps in it ..
also in the future if you plan any other mods you will alreeady have the tuning device.
the power commander is also a good tuning devicee.
now with the TTS you can retreive the Stock map and save it just in case you decide to sell your bike and take off the parts and put the stock ones back on .
there are people who do that.
also the tts just like the sert and sest has data mode so if your bike throws a code you can see what code it is and clear it.
if you have a power commander you cannot clearr codes or see them.
there is no sales pitch i dont give a rats tail what you buy i am just trying to save you the BS that i went thru when i took the advice of people who thought they knew whaat they were talking about.
if you do decide to go with the TTS and need a map i will send you one .
FREE.
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Road Master
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there is no sales pitch i dont give a rats tail what you buy i am just trying to save you the BS that i went thru when i took the advice of people who thought they knew whaat they were talking about.
if you do decide to go with the TTS and need a map i will send you one .
FREE.
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Wow! thanks. I really appreciate that. I will let you know definetly.
if you do decide to go with the TTS and need a map i will send you one .
FREE.
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Wow! thanks. I really appreciate that. I will let you know definetly.
You can also go with the PCIII, (less money than the TTS and can be used when/if you do any further upgrades). they also have free MAPS and to return the ECU to stock, all you have to do is take the PCIII off. But, like stated above, it won't retrieve fault codes. Or you can just leave it like it is, take the bike to a dyno and have them give you an A/F check to see how you are running.
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From: On a hill among the hills, PA
You can also go with the PCIII, (less money than the TTS and can be used when/if you do any further upgrades). they also have free MAPS and to return the ECU to stock, all you have to do is take the PCIII off. But, like stated above, it won't retrieve fault codes. Or you can just leave it like it is, take the bike to a dyno and have them give you an A/F check to see how you are running.
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Road Master
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From: Uxbridge, Ma
You can also go with the PCIII, (less money than the TTS and can be used when/if you do any further upgrades). they also have free MAPS and to return the ECU to stock, all you have to do is take the PCIII off. But, like stated above, it won't retrieve fault codes. Or you can just leave it like it is, take the bike to a dyno and have them give you an A/F check to see how you are running.
The Biatch part of this (I suspect) is that if I do the dyno and the bike is running to lean for my comfort zone then I decide to go with a PC of some kind and I would have to pay for the dyno a second time.
I must be sounding cheap to all of you. I just don't want to be taken and I'm trying to get the most "bang for the buck" is all.
Road Captain
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From: Mims,Fl.
I have the V&H big sucker,V&H pipes and an Arlen Ness Big Shot FTI. The Big Shot was $225.00. You can not belive how much differant my bike runs now.
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Question for you... if you have upgraded cams to S&S 510G's 04' 88" RKC and the it is supposed to have a stage 1 flash already, I have looked at the map and which was loaded on the PCIIIUSB and it looks lean at the top end. There have been no ignition changes on the ignition map either... shouldn't there at the least be added ignition in the map in the top end??? The intake has been changed and runnin Sreamin Eagle slipons with the baffles gutted! the map that was sent with the PCIII (M807-005)
I like the idea of bringing it to a place that does the dyno. Appx. how much does it cost to have this done?
The Biatch part of this (I suspect) is that if I do the dyno and the bike is running to lean for my comfort zone then I decide to go with a PC of some kind and I would have to pay for the dyno a second time.
I must be sounding cheap to all of you. I just don't want to be taken and I'm trying to get the most "bang for the buck" is all.
The Biatch part of this (I suspect) is that if I do the dyno and the bike is running to lean for my comfort zone then I decide to go with a PC of some kind and I would have to pay for the dyno a second time.
I must be sounding cheap to all of you. I just don't want to be taken and I'm trying to get the most "bang for the buck" is all.
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