Banging my head 45 won’t start
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From: Sebastopol
Ok, for at least 5 times now I checked compression on each cylinder , 62 lbs on each cylinder.
fresh fuel, high octane chevron.
Timing on mark, Fully advanced on circuit timer used test light to ensure accuracy ( dead on )
checked both intake and exhaust valve for full movement. ( note new valves and valves springs.
And as said running totally out of ideas!!!
Does anyone believe in a possessed bike?😕
If not I do believe I’ve got on.
fresh fuel, high octane chevron.
Timing on mark, Fully advanced on circuit timer used test light to ensure accuracy ( dead on )
checked both intake and exhaust valve for full movement. ( note new valves and valves springs.
And as said running totally out of ideas!!!
Does anyone believe in a possessed bike?😕
If not I do believe I’ve got on.
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From: la la land jerzey
Ok i am going to this idea
not enough advance in the distributor - no one asked how you set the advance - loosen the clamp at full advance turn it counterclockwise dist even more like 3/8 of an inch - see if when kicking it the pedal chuckles < from too much timing - try and start it
when they are retarded to much they wont start - you can with a 45 leave the timing at full advance un like a sporty that will snap your ankle doing that it does not care and does fire off easy - we set the advance from the back of the timing hole with the line as it makes it just a bit smoother to start and run and we leave the advance full all the time unless it chuckles when kicking then turn the distributor clockwise just a bit try again if it does not chuckle then thats the spot to start it at
not enough advance in the distributor - no one asked how you set the advance - loosen the clamp at full advance turn it counterclockwise dist even more like 3/8 of an inch - see if when kicking it the pedal chuckles < from too much timing - try and start it
when they are retarded to much they wont start - you can with a 45 leave the timing at full advance un like a sporty that will snap your ankle doing that it does not care and does fire off easy - we set the advance from the back of the timing hole with the line as it makes it just a bit smoother to start and run and we leave the advance full all the time unless it chuckles when kicking then turn the distributor clockwise just a bit try again if it does not chuckle then thats the spot to start it at
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From: Sebastopol
I hear what you’re saying about the timing advance. I just reset the timing like I have many many times.
I’ve had it set so well in the past that I didn’t even have to kick it very hard to get her running.
Cold or hot, just one little kick and BAM !! Running like a champ!! And than it just stop!
Valves working correctly, and getting spark.
I’ll check and recheck the timing again!
Big cigar when I find it.
thanks.
I’ve had it set so well in the past that I didn’t even have to kick it very hard to get her running.
Cold or hot, just one little kick and BAM !! Running like a champ!! And than it just stop!
Valves working correctly, and getting spark.
I’ll check and recheck the timing again!
Big cigar when I find it.
thanks.
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From: Canada
You could be losing your ground through the engine to the frame if the frame mounts weren't bare metal. I would run a wire from the distributor (timer) to the frame. Im assuming the battery connection are good as is the battery?
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From: Sebastopol
I recently pulled the motor, after having this issue and made sure the fame and motor had clean surfaces for a good ground!
The frustrating thing is that I’ve checked and recheck everything on this machine but ha ha moment yet!!!
I’ll try a wire from timer to fame to see what happens!
Story /issue continues….
The frustrating thing is that I’ve checked and recheck everything on this machine but ha ha moment yet!!!
I’ll try a wire from timer to fame to see what happens!
Story /issue continues….
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From: Sebastopol
So here’s what I’m puzzled about.
after putting my hand over the carb, hand chocking it and kicking many times I noticed the plugs are dry!!
So I would think that flooding out a motor would lead to wet plugs.
like I’ve said, I replaced the pistons, rings, valves and springs. I’ve got 62psi on each cylinder, getting some popping but no start and plugs not wet!
puzzled again.
Ok up date:
So I just dump some fuel down the carb, and clamped a ground to the circuit timer and she started.
So I’m thinking it was a grounding issue, so just to test the waters I removed the ground wire and she started!!!
Now I’m totally confused what’s going on, I did notice a lot of force coming out of carb when trying to start still not sure why this all started in the first place!
Anyone have any clue?
after putting my hand over the carb, hand chocking it and kicking many times I noticed the plugs are dry!!
So I would think that flooding out a motor would lead to wet plugs.
like I’ve said, I replaced the pistons, rings, valves and springs. I’ve got 62psi on each cylinder, getting some popping but no start and plugs not wet!
puzzled again.
Ok up date:
So I just dump some fuel down the carb, and clamped a ground to the circuit timer and she started.
So I’m thinking it was a grounding issue, so just to test the waters I removed the ground wire and she started!!!
Now I’m totally confused what’s going on, I did notice a lot of force coming out of carb when trying to start still not sure why this all started in the first place!
Anyone have any clue?
Last edited by Scotty p; Mar 5, 2023 at 02:57 PM.
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From: la la land jerzey
Seen that more then once with a ground - after it started and the temp came up just a bit and the parts were moving running the ground came back
this is a very common issue with Indians as the dist bushing wears just a bit then the ground going away
a 45 i have done an added ground - i turned the dist around 180 so i did not have to remove it drilled a hole 8 /32 or 10/32 tap and attach a ground wire ran it to the generator nut under the cover
this is a very common issue with Indians as the dist bushing wears just a bit then the ground going away
a 45 i have done an added ground - i turned the dist around 180 so i did not have to remove it drilled a hole 8 /32 or 10/32 tap and attach a ground wire ran it to the generator nut under the cover