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Again, you seem to be either a troll or very knowlegable and this is your way of invoking discussion. I'm leaning towards the latter.
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First, a question: Why did you delete this?
Here's where you're wrong. I happen to know IdahoHacker personally. Though I don't know him well, I know him well enough to say I'm pretty sure he's forgotten more about riding (and probably just about everything else one could think of) than you could learn in a thousand years. In my opinion, he's a truly standup guy. What he's saying here needs to be listened to by you before, as he says, you kill yourself. Or someone else.
So while I'm at it, why not have the respect to address him by his proper username?
I've been holding this back too, but I just gotta say it. As far as I'm concerned, the jury is in.
MikerR1: You, sir, are a complete and total ***. Period.
Here's where you're wrong. I happen to know IdahoHacker personally. Though I don't know him well, I know him well enough to say I'm pretty sure he's forgotten more about riding (and probably just about everything else one could think of) than you could learn in a thousand years. In my opinion, he's a truly standup guy. What he's saying here needs to be listened to by you before, as he says, you kill yourself. Or someone else.
So while I'm at it, why not have the respect to address him by his proper username?
I've been holding this back too, but I just gotta say it. As far as I'm concerned, the jury is in.
MikerR1: You, sir, are a complete and total ***. Period.
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First, a question: Why did you delete this?
Here's where you're wrong. I happen to know IdahoHacker personally. Though I don't know him well, I know him well enough to say I'm pretty sure he's forgotten more about riding (and probably just about everything else one could think of) than you could learn in a thousand years. In my opinion, he's a truly standup guy. What he's saying here needs to be listened to by you before, as he says, you kill yourself. Or someone else.
So while I'm at it, why not have the respect to address him by his proper username?
I've been holding this back too, but I just gotta say it. As far as I'm concerned, the jury is in.
MikerR1: You, sir, are a complete and total ***. Period.
Here's where you're wrong. I happen to know IdahoHacker personally. Though I don't know him well, I know him well enough to say I'm pretty sure he's forgotten more about riding (and probably just about everything else one could think of) than you could learn in a thousand years. In my opinion, he's a truly standup guy. What he's saying here needs to be listened to by you before, as he says, you kill yourself. Or someone else.
So while I'm at it, why not have the respect to address him by his proper username?
I've been holding this back too, but I just gotta say it. As far as I'm concerned, the jury is in.
MikerR1: You, sir, are a complete and total ***. Period.
You do not know what has gone on in this thread. Only I and a few others because only I and a few others have paid attention to everything that has been said.
I could say the same thing about you, that you are a total ***, because you re-published something that I had deleted to protect his feelings. You republished it to hurt his feelings. You sir, are a complete ***.
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Assuming bike properly set up
And assuming bike properly set when entering said corner
Rolling on the throttle will cause the bike to squat..., angle to increase..., grip to increase - and off ya go
Setting a bike happens just prior to the apex - apex is where one needs to be in the throttle
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btw - those who say you can't steer by pressing down on the handle bars - not forward - but simply down
You're incorrect
Pressing down shifts weight - bike will head that way - while keeping bars perfectly straight
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btw if bike isn't set up properly - one will likely low side
*** end washes out
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*** end washes out
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Well guess what, now you know why I deleted it. Because I think he is probably a nice man but he has not read all the posts and got some things wrong at my expense. He lost my respect when he tried to pile on without fully understanding what has gone on. After I published it, I decided I was going to give him a second chance.
You do not know what has gone on in this thread. Only I and a few others because only I and a few others have paid attention to everything that has been said.
I could say the same thing about you, that you are a total ***, because you re-published something that I had deleted to protect his feelings. You republished it to hurt his feelings. You sir, are a complete ***.
Pretty sure I do. I also know there are no absolutes, and doubt seriously anyone has ever accelerated out of a corner (key phrase) without also adjusting body position.
If you wish to ask a serious question, address all the variables.
As stated before there are many experienced riders here who are willing to help, however once you discount information, you will no longer get it.
Moderate smooth increase in throttle will decrease the lean angle (using perpendicular as 0*) and help bring you smoothly out of a corner, while violent acceleration will cause loss of traction, cause the rear end to come around, and if not immediately corrected increase the lean angle to the the point you are parallel with the pavement.
Ride more, and ask fewer question.
There are also Forum rules related to double posting.
If you wish to ask a serious question, address all the variables.
As stated before there are many experienced riders here who are willing to help, however once you discount information, you will no longer get it.
Moderate smooth increase in throttle will decrease the lean angle (using perpendicular as 0*) and help bring you smoothly out of a corner, while violent acceleration will cause loss of traction, cause the rear end to come around, and if not immediately corrected increase the lean angle to the the point you are parallel with the pavement.
Ride more, and ask fewer question.
There are also Forum rules related to double posting.
Last edited by TSheff; Oct 19, 2016 at 09:42 PM.