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Grand HDF Member
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From: Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri
It's no big deal. If all you are saying is that some people recognize a 4th generation, yeah, some do. My point was that you accused me of not doing my research or something to that effect, and that I should have bought a 3rd generation gun. I was pointing out that I *did* do my research and I *did* buy a 3rd Generation gun. I also knew what some folks were saying about the quality of current manufacture (not so good). But a lot of those folks were in bed with USFA, Uberti, Ruger, or talking about stuff they had heard, not stuff they knew from personal experience. After doing all my research, and listening to Colt fans and Colt, and knowing I wanted a Factory NIB gun with no prior owners, and having seen pictures of it (beautiful case colors), I went for it. I also did research on Harley, here, on this forum, reading all of one of the longest threads in this forum's history, and taking in all that people here and what Harley had to say about itself. Sure, I heard about the old days, and the days Harley was under some other outfit, and I heard what Harley haters had to say. But again, most of that was not from personal experience and it was just **** people heard. So I went with Harley. And, just like Colt, and just like people here suggest I do, I'm giving it another go.
Can't help but think about that old saying though, insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. Here's to this thing getting un-****ed and no more problems.
Can't help but think about that old saying though, insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. Here's to this thing getting un-****ed and no more problems.
I purposely stayed away from talking about the quality of the Third Generation vs the Fourth Generation ( I couldn't resist--
) but you did bring it up. All I can tell you is that one of my gun show buddies picked up a "later" SAA for more than I paid for mine and when I examined it I have to admit I was a little disappointed with the build quality. I certainly didn't say anything as he was pretty excited but I didn't think the case colors were well done and the action didn't seem as smooth. Just an opinion based one one gun so it probably doesn't mean much but I thought I would pass it along. A lot of folks on the Colt form have bought them and are pleased with the build quality so it just might be something you want to examine closely prior to laying down the $$$.Shoot, I don't know where you live but if you live anywheres near MO let me know, maybe we could ride the scoots and meet and you could look mine over and see what you think.
Good luck my friend.
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From: Danbury CT
When the red light runs solid it means it is working properly. If you have to hang around and check on it all the time then you might as well ride the ****ing thing and not worry about a tender, but you are obviously here just jerking off and thats okay. A tender is for those who aren't around baby sitting. It IS the baby sitter. By your reasoning, even if it did turn green, I should keep checking on it to make sure it stays green. WTF?
Like I said before, go back and read the thread, only this time pay attention. A subsequent post explained the error in your lack of reasoning.
Like I said before, go back and read the thread, only this time pay attention. A subsequent post explained the error in your lack of reasoning.
Road Warrior
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: West side of indianapolis
hgdzr: Nice post. Yes, it would have been nice if Harley told me all that. They didn't. Harley loaded the bike, Harley told me to keep the fobs within five feet of the bike, Harley told me to use a tender during storage. Harley told me they found the problem and fixed it. In then end, you are correct. I got in over my head. I thought 18K, following directions, was a good thing. But now that I know part of owning a Harley is working on it and baby sitting it, I hope I've learned. I guess my anger is really with myself, having thought I'd learned that lesson with another American icon.
coltsfan: Your gun is probably worth one whole hell of a lot more than any NIB Colt like mine. Depends on what you mean by "poor condition." It would have to be a rust relic to be worth less.
Cygnusx51: I'd heard the same things, but research told me not so regarding the SAA. You are correct as to the black powder Navy, Army, cap and ball guns, etc.
I went back through my records last night and found a lot of stuff about that Colt deal that I had forgotten. It's been three years. None of it is relevant to my point. I guess I was trying to suppress the memories.
I actually sent it back a third time for my money back and they talked me into trying an entirely different gun. I looked it over and it passed muster. I did not look close enough. While it is light years ahead of the first gun, it does have one flaw: it's the gun with the 1/8" difference between the cylinder radius and the loading gate/recoil shield. That's when I gave.
coltsfan: Your gun is probably worth one whole hell of a lot more than any NIB Colt like mine. Depends on what you mean by "poor condition." It would have to be a rust relic to be worth less.
Cygnusx51: I'd heard the same things, but research told me not so regarding the SAA. You are correct as to the black powder Navy, Army, cap and ball guns, etc.
I went back through my records last night and found a lot of stuff about that Colt deal that I had forgotten. It's been three years. None of it is relevant to my point. I guess I was trying to suppress the memories.
I actually sent it back a third time for my money back and they talked me into trying an entirely different gun. I looked it over and it passed muster. I did not look close enough. While it is light years ahead of the first gun, it does have one flaw: it's the gun with the 1/8" difference between the cylinder radius and the loading gate/recoil shield. That's when I gave.
I've read this whole thread and your bike is really new and it came with a problem, even if you did do something wrong. I couldn't imagine what that would be either, there is only one way to hook up that tender. That is a warranty problem that the dealership should fix. Any dealershp that I know of would fix that.
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From: Green Country
Hmmm. After Harley put the bike on my truck (it was winter in Laramie, Wyo or I would have rode it home), it was about a four hour drive, the key fobs were in my cab in front of the bike. If I recall (it's been a while) when I got it home, it would not start. I wheeled it back to the garage. Later, after calling Harley, they said get the tender they told me to get for the times when I wasn't riding and that should charge it too. I bought a tender, put in on, and later (don't remember how long) it started fine. I road it for just under 1,000 miles with no problem, using the tender sometimes, others not. Then, right before the 1,000 miles, I made the appointment for the warranty work and went to drive it in. It would not start. Loaded it on the truck, hauled it to town and told the dealer everything I knew. Picked the bike up when they were done, rode it around for about another 500 miles and then put it away on the tender until the other day. And here I am. I still need to go find the warranty work they did and see what they did, if anything, about the electrical issue.
Big Kahuna HDF Member
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From: USA
Now to plug all of this in you will need the Deltran Battery Tender-Tender-Alarm Module Adapter Plug. The adapter plug is on back-order until September so you should probably keep an eye on the light and chill out until then.
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Tourer
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You CAN be that thick, obviously. Look at the post above, NOT MINE, that says yes, solid red means the tender IS working. You are failing to distinguish between the tender and the battery. The bike was working when I put in on the tender three months ago and the tender was working too; It was red. I walked away. For all the Harley and Deltran know, I was gone for three months. That's what the set up is for. Now why don't you run along and jerk off some place else.
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From: Downriver, MI
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Hey, it's cool. You know, I went back and looked at my original post and yes, I did accuse you of not doing your research. I was wrong and that was out of line.
I purposely stayed away from talking about the quality of the Third Generation vs the Fourth Generation ( I couldn't resist--) but you did bring it up. All I can tell you is that one of my gun show buddies picked up a "later" SAA for more than I paid for mine and when I examined it I have to admit I was a little disappointed with the build quality. I certainly didn't say anything as he was pretty excited but I didn't think the case colors were well done and the action didn't seem as smooth. Just an opinion based one one gun so it probably doesn't mean much but I thought I would pass it along. A lot of folks on the Colt form have bought them and are pleased with the build quality so it just might be something you want to examine closely prior to laying down the $$$.
Shoot, I don't know where you live but if you live anywheres near MO let me know, maybe we could ride the scoots and meet and you could look mine over and see what you think.
Good luck my friend.
I purposely stayed away from talking about the quality of the Third Generation vs the Fourth Generation ( I couldn't resist--
) but you did bring it up. All I can tell you is that one of my gun show buddies picked up a "later" SAA for more than I paid for mine and when I examined it I have to admit I was a little disappointed with the build quality. I certainly didn't say anything as he was pretty excited but I didn't think the case colors were well done and the action didn't seem as smooth. Just an opinion based one one gun so it probably doesn't mean much but I thought I would pass it along. A lot of folks on the Colt form have bought them and are pleased with the build quality so it just might be something you want to examine closely prior to laying down the $$$.Shoot, I don't know where you live but if you live anywheres near MO let me know, maybe we could ride the scoots and meet and you could look mine over and see what you think.
Good luck my friend.
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No, this Colt is in great shape for it's age. Really for any age. I thought that you had bought an old gun instead of a new/old pistol. To me anything that predates record keeping is valuable enough.
I've read this whole thread and your bike is really new and it came with a problem, even if you did do something wrong. I couldn't imagine what that would be either, there is only one way to hook up that tender. That is a warranty problem that the dealership should fix. Any dealershp that I know of would fix that.
I've read this whole thread and your bike is really new and it came with a problem, even if you did do something wrong. I couldn't imagine what that would be either, there is only one way to hook up that tender. That is a warranty problem that the dealership should fix. Any dealershp that I know of would fix that.