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And, hand-tighten only, after putting some oil on the filter gasket.
HiFloFiltro makes the filters for K&N, and they're generally priced lower. Only negative thing I've heard about those filters is a while back, they made a batch with bad spot welds on the nut so it was breaking off when people tried to remove the filter. Even then, it's not a huge deal as you can still use other methods shown here to remove it.
HiFlo does not manufacture filters for K&N. That is a common misconception. And the problem was NOT that the nut was coming off during removal. The problems was that both the crimps and the welds were failing in use, resulting in oil loss while the bike is running. This is why for some period of time they were banned by race organizations - including the AMA/MotoAmerica.
In fact, during this period, zero HiFlo filters failed, while K&N did. They are different parts, not the same. Sorry. Appearances are deceiving.
In case it helps someone, I got a stubborn filter off once with a strap wrench after lining it with some doubled over sandpaper. This was after trying with the large grippers, the allegedly correct cap, and some gentle chisel work.
I have no idea where you got the idea that HiFlo and K&N are the s ame. They are not. Period. They. Are. Not. They are manufactured by completely different manufacturers, in completely different facilities, with different designs.
I. Read. About. It. Somewhere. Years. Ago.
Apparently Thai Yang Kitpaisan is the parent company of HiFlo and are reported to have made some K&N filters, so that might be where this general idea came from.
Personally, I'm not expecting a 'catastrophic failure' of my new K&N filter as I will not be subjecting my Low Rider to any form of extreme riding/racing as described in your post (which refers to the period of 2016 or so: around eight years ago). I would think that it's pretty reasonable to assume that K&N has addressed those issues relating to their oil filters on high performance machines in the intervening almost a decade, since they are not still banned.
Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion of them of course, as am I, and thanks for the input. Duly noted.
Last edited by Ozharleyguy; Aug 13, 2024 at 09:57 AM.
Hazet oil filter sockets are pricey but fit tight and are worth it, mine has never failed to loosen the most stubborn overtightened filter. My Hazet 2169 has fit many bikes and cars I've owned including my Sportster...
Hazet oil filter sockets are pricey but fit tight and are worth it, mine has never failed to loosen the most stubborn overtightened filter. My Hazet 2169 has fit many bikes and cars I've owned including my Sportster...
Thanks mate. If the one that I have ordered doesn't work, even with the self tappers - once I finally get the filter off, I'll go for a tool like this for the future.
Update guys: The cup style filter wrench arrived today.
They sent a 76mm which was too loose and kept slipping.
So, to prevent rounding off the end of the filter, I got a strip of sheet metal and made a shim to make the wrench tight on the filter.
Then did as others suggested, @Schex , I drilled two holes and screwed a couple of self tapping screws through the cup and into the filter head. After a little leverage with two 12" extension bars, Voile! off that sucker came.
I still have the strap type recommended by @eighteight and the tool recommended by @CoolBreeze3646 on order for all future oil filter nightmare scenarios. Thanks to all for the positive feedback.
Here's a pic of the old filter - you can see how tight the monkey had installed it by how deformed the seal is.
Last edited by Ozharleyguy; Aug 19, 2024 at 04:56 AM.
Apparently Thai Yang Kitpaisan is the parent company of HiFlo and are reported to have made some K&N filters, so that might be where this general idea came from.
Personally, I'm not expecting a 'catastrophic failure' of my new K&N filter as I will not be subjecting my Low Rider to any form of extreme riding/racing as described in your post (which refers to the period of 2016 or so: around eight years ago). I would think that it's pretty reasonable to assume that K&N has addressed those issues relating to their oil filters on high performance machines in the intervening almost a decade, since they are not still banned.
Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion of them of course, as am I, and thanks for the input. Duly noted.
well, its not an opinion. Its fact. Further, it was not just 2016. Even further, you read somewhere that you cant remember seems to be about the same factual information as the rest of your bs.
hiflo and K&n are totally different products, manufactured totally different, with their products having totally different results. And an engine racing on a road track is actually a really good indicator of product quality. But hey. Let your ignorance of facts drive your opinion. No problem. SMH.
my information is completely based on published facts - which I can support with actual data. Yours is , well, um, yeah. Ok. A broken clock is right twice a day. Congrats.
well, its not an opinion. Its fact. Further, it was not just 2016. Even further, you read somewhere that you cant remember seems to be about the same factual information as the rest of your bs.
hiflo and K&n are totally different products, manufactured totally different, with their products having totally different results. And an engine racing on a road track is actually a really good indicator of product quality. But hey. Let your ignorance of facts drive your opinion. No problem. SMH.
my information is completely based on published facts - which I can support with actual data. Yours is , well, um, yeah. Ok. A broken clock is right twice a day. Congrats.
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