Power Vision Information Thread
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Upstate SC
.... Update
Got your files, ran them thru Log Tuner and created updated calibration. Replied in email with new calibration and the steps I went thru. Let me know if you need more information or help.
Last edited by JustDennis; Aug 15, 2011 at 02:31 PM.
Cruiser
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Toulouse (SW of France)
European users
I have done the data log, used log tuner to create a new tune but when I compare old tune to new tune EVERYTHING is identical....?? I am sure it is something I am not doing correctly. I should be able to aply my data log to the base map I got from fuel moto,..correct?? HELP??
If so convert Farenheit to Celsius in LT options...
European users meet this requirement, and may have to change regional settings to English.
Dynojet knows and a next release will fix.
08-20-2011:
Log Tuner 1.1.0 has been released. European users don't have to change regional settings anymore.
They must pay attention to the choice made on Powervision temperature unit (Metric/F°), and convert the Min/Max option values in Log Tuner options if they have chosen Metric.Celsius to Farenheit f(x)=1,8x+32 (10°C=18+32=50°F)
Farenheit to Celsius g(x)=(5/9)x-160/9
Last edited by JJAA; Aug 20, 2011 at 09:45 AM. Reason: News
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Upstate SC
I just noticed there is a new tune database available today. version 0.0.9.4 Looks like DynoJet added support for a new ECM - p/n 32534-11
Also I am curious if there is anyone else using the Power Vision with an 2008 or 2009 touring bike. I would be interested in reviewing your calibration to see how it compares to the one developed on my bike. I have tried several different configurations on my bike and compared results but would be interested to see what some of you came up with too.
Also I am curious if there is anyone else using the Power Vision with an 2008 or 2009 touring bike. I would be interested in reviewing your calibration to see how it compares to the one developed on my bike. I have tried several different configurations on my bike and compared results but would be interested to see what some of you came up with too.
Last edited by JustDennis; Aug 17, 2011 at 11:49 AM.
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From: Puyallup Wa.
Oil cooler help it was up to 80 here today. My highest oil temp observed was 247 My bike goes into ETIMS all the time even in light traffic light to light. I tried getting bike hot to see how much oil cooler helped. So I started off my day with Lambda .981 as it came from fuel moto. I know everyone talks AFR numbers I wish more were talking Lambda numbers. Then I thought I would try a map I made at .977 bike responded positively to that in fact real good. I am wondering how much timing I can put back in with that map? the looming spark knock that I get at .981 was gone. Bike ran good so I took a quick spin out of city traffic and decided to relax and enjoy the ride and scenery. I have two maps loaded for AFR 14.1 and will try them to. Lambda .959 14.1 and Lambda .962 thats probably real close to 14.2 I did not do the math but know it is. I can feel the difference in temps just from L-.981 and L-.
977
I think at this point I am ready to understand and learn more about advantage/disadvantage of open loop and closed loop.
I am now also wondering how I am going to dial in my trip center? I dont have a GPS I am pretty sure I need to put in a fudge factor I am getting good gas mileage but I am pretty sure its not 50-55 mpg.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,549
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From: Upstate SC
Oil cooler help it was up to 80 here today. My highest oil temp observed was 247 My bike goes into ETIMS all the time even in light traffic light to light. I tried getting bike hot to see how much oil cooler helped. So I started off my day with Lambda .981 as it came from fuel moto. I know everyone talks AFR numbers I wish more were talking Lambda numbers. Then I thought I would try a map I made at .977 bike responded positively to that in fact real good. I am wondering how much timing I can put back in with that map? the looming spark knock that I get at .981 was gone. Bike ran good so I took a quick spin out of city traffic and decided to relax and enjoy the ride and scenery. I have two maps loaded for AFR 14.1 and will try them to. Lambda .959 14.1 and Lambda .962 thats probably real close to 14.2 I did not do the math but know it is. I can feel the difference in temps just from L-.981 and L-.
977
I think at this point I am ready to understand and learn more about advantage/disadvantage of open loop and closed loop.
I am now also wondering how I am going to dial in my trip center? I dont have a GPS I am pretty sure I need to put in a fudge factor I am getting good gas mileage but I am pretty sure its not 50-55 mpg.
977
I think at this point I am ready to understand and learn more about advantage/disadvantage of open loop and closed loop.
I am now also wondering how I am going to dial in my trip center? I dont have a GPS I am pretty sure I need to put in a fudge factor I am getting good gas mileage but I am pretty sure its not 50-55 mpg.
On the trip center, DynoJet has made it pretty easy to dial it in now. This was discussed in some of the earlier posts but the simple version is this. The next time you stop to get gas, go to the Trip center on the Power Vision and reset trip A and trip B, also reset the trip on your bike. Ride all the gas out (that's the fun part) and then refill. After you refill, pull up the trip center in PV. It will show miles traveled and fuel used. If the miles traveled differs from your odometer, the the PV display and enter miles traveled. The PV will calculate the adjustment factor for you. DO the same with fuel used. You can repeat this a couple of times for a good average but then you should be all set. Look back at some of the posts where this is described in detail.
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From: Puyallup Wa.
Your right I will back track I was not paying attention as it was not of interest for me a month ago. I did notice my miles traveled today was a exact match PV and odometer.
No way LOL I dont think I would even put in .995 I dont have a CLB to richen things up and I dont know what I am talking about on that. Bike is hot enough at .981 I observed in the compare feature that the stock stage one down load the highest is .984 in the cruz range. But actually the Fuel Moto fuel map and the stock map are about the same. Thats one reason I keep looking at the timing because thats the BIG difference in the maps. With the Fuel moto map bikes seems to get hotter faster. However it did dawn on me today that with the Mustang day tripper solo seat my legs are closer to the bike and not held out as far as with my Mustang touring seat. I ask my self if thats why I think its so hot but on the other hand it has barely hit 80 and my bike lives in ETIMS around town.
No way LOL I dont think I would even put in .995 I dont have a CLB to richen things up and I dont know what I am talking about on that. Bike is hot enough at .981 I observed in the compare feature that the stock stage one down load the highest is .984 in the cruz range. But actually the Fuel Moto fuel map and the stock map are about the same. Thats one reason I keep looking at the timing because thats the BIG difference in the maps. With the Fuel moto map bikes seems to get hotter faster. However it did dawn on me today that with the Mustang day tripper solo seat my legs are closer to the bike and not held out as far as with my Mustang touring seat. I ask my self if thats why I think its so hot but on the other hand it has barely hit 80 and my bike lives in ETIMS around town.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Upstate SC
Log Tuner Update - 1.1.0
There will be a log tuner updated posted on the DynoJet site shortly. Be checking for it. It is version 1.1.0. There should be a read me with the changes, I will list the info below.
One thing I noticed is that the default max temp is changed to 300 degrees. Take note - mine was set lower and installing this did not change my settings. If you want to move you max up to 300, do so in the options.
Log Tuner 1.1.0
Added toggle to turn off the cell colors for better visibility of the data within the cells
Default max temp changed to 300 degrees F
Application always uses Windows US Culture to ensure .csv files are processed properly
One thing I noticed is that the default max temp is changed to 300 degrees. Take note - mine was set lower and installing this did not change my settings. If you want to move you max up to 300, do so in the options.
Log Tuner 1.1.0
Added toggle to turn off the cell colors for better visibility of the data within the cells
Default max temp changed to 300 degrees F
Application always uses Windows US Culture to ensure .csv files are processed properly
Road Captain
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Oklahoma
Might pay for everyone to take a close look at the new tunes for your bike.
Michael
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Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 129
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From: Middle Tn
1st autotune basic logging this weekend
I may actually get away from work long enough to do this over the weekend. My logging tune is set except for the reduction of spark advance. I've set my 14.6 range from 20 thru 80kpa and up through 3500 rpm. Is it best to reduce spark advance over the entire map range or just the 14.6 area and maybe a row and column past?
The new tunes that have come out from DJ include one for a softail that's a perfect equipment match to match to my Dyna. Same year, same software level. Can I use that tune on my Dyna since it's the same software level or can the software level be the same but using a different ecu that would throw things out of whack?
One other item, the new logging package advertised as 1.1.0 is still 1.0.14 by filename and msi version. Maybe they pulled the 1.1.0 due to problems and posted the earlier out to fill the hole?
Thanks guys for what you do and be safe!
The new tunes that have come out from DJ include one for a softail that's a perfect equipment match to match to my Dyna. Same year, same software level. Can I use that tune on my Dyna since it's the same software level or can the software level be the same but using a different ecu that would throw things out of whack?
One other item, the new logging package advertised as 1.1.0 is still 1.0.14 by filename and msi version. Maybe they pulled the 1.1.0 due to problems and posted the earlier out to fill the hole?
Thanks guys for what you do and be safe!
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,549
Likes: 18
From: Upstate SC
I may actually get away from work long enough to do this over the weekend. My logging tune is set except for the reduction of spark advance. I've set my 14.6 range from 20 thru 80kpa and up through 3500 rpm. Is it best to reduce spark advance over the entire map range or just the 14.6 area and maybe a row and column past?
The new tunes that have come out from DJ include one for a softail that's a perfect equipment match to match to my Dyna. Same year, same software level. Can I use that tune on my Dyna since it's the same software level or can the software level be the same but using a different ecu that would throw things out of whack?
I let DynoJet know about the 1.1.0 not being available and they should get it corrected ASAP. It hasn't been pulled. I think they just updated the webpage but not the file being downloaded. Check back later today. If you want the file sooner, send me a message with your email and I'll send it to you.
Last edited by JustDennis; Aug 19, 2011 at 08:04 AM.