Power Vision Information Thread
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Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Idaho Falls, ID
I downloaded the full binary file from my bike. Just because I was curious, I opened the file that was uploaded to the bike originally. I noticed minor changes to a few cells in the Idle RPM table and both VE tables that I assume the bike did from some feedback. Maybe the stock O2 sensors and the Adaptive Control?
Am I correct in my assumptions? If not, what makes the changes to these tables and where do they get the inputs?
Cheiron
Am I correct in my assumptions? If not, what makes the changes to these tables and where do they get the inputs?
Cheiron
I downloaded the full binary file from my bike. Just because I was curious, I opened the file that was uploaded to the bike originally. I noticed minor changes to a few cells in the Idle RPM table and both VE tables that I assume the bike did from some feedback. Maybe the stock O2 sensors and the Adaptive Control?
Am I correct in my assumptions? If not, what makes the changes to these tables and where do they get the inputs?
Cheiron
Am I correct in my assumptions? If not, what makes the changes to these tables and where do they get the inputs?
Cheiron
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The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
1) Flash your current calibration to the ECM
2) Delete the saved stock cals with WinPv by going to backup STK and deleting them
3) Save Stock
4) Load Copy of Stock to Tune manager
5) retrieve it from Tune Manager with WinPv
The speedo calibration is not exposed in some very early Delphi ECM calibrations specifically level 74, 88, 93 cals as well as a limited amount of later builds. If you are using one of these early calibrations and would like to adjust the speedo cal, you can send me an email at jamie@fuelmotousa.com and I will send a newer level calibration that will allow you to adjust it
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Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Idaho Falls, ID
The adaptive values are stored as block learn, any changes seen in the idle or VE tables had to be edited manually somewhere along the way. Make sure you are comparing the very first original saved calibration to the cal you want to compare, if there are multiple "save stock" files stored in the PV it will always pull the original. The easiest way is to back them up and delete them as you go
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Joined: Apr 2007
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From: Idaho Falls, ID
Do I have this correct?
The VE tables are a model of airflow to the engine. The number in the block is a percent of displacement. The VE table, through a calculation using the injector size and AF ratio table, directly controls the injector pulse and the amount of fuel for the given block.
If you change the VE table for a given block then it changes the total equation for the block. Same with AF ratio table.
Where do the adaptive values come into play? What gives input for the adaptive values (O2 sensors?) and how do the adaptive values interact with the fuel equation? Is it a table that is readable with the PV?
Cheiron
The VE tables are a model of airflow to the engine. The number in the block is a percent of displacement. The VE table, through a calculation using the injector size and AF ratio table, directly controls the injector pulse and the amount of fuel for the given block.
If you change the VE table for a given block then it changes the total equation for the block. Same with AF ratio table.
Where do the adaptive values come into play? What gives input for the adaptive values (O2 sensors?) and how do the adaptive values interact with the fuel equation? Is it a table that is readable with the PV?
Cheiron
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Does anyone have a problem with the data going blank while riding? I have updated mine and still have the problem. While using the gauges I go riding and anywhere from 30 seconds to 15 minutes the screen stays on with the gauges but all the data disappears and the datalog stops. I have to stop and unplug the unit to get it to come back.
Okay, I think I figured it out. Just letting everyone else know. I had ran the Power Vision wire down the frame on the left side and Ty-Rapped it to the spark plug wire. I changed that and ran it in the wire tunnel under the tank and have not had any more problems. I think I was getting some pulse from the spark plug wire that was screwing up the data link.
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Joined: Dec 2010
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From: So Californis
Have read 14 pages regarding the Powervison, Power Commander and Auto Turn but most all is over my head.
This is what I want to accomplish. I have a 2010 Softail Convertiable (CVO) 110 SE. The performance over my 07 softail 96 is awesome, lots of torque. I just hate the stock pipes because it sound like a sewing machine. I want to put on V&H Long Shots but V&H does not make a fuel pack for my scoot because they say there is no room under the seat which I agree with. I don't really want to go with the SERT because I have done that before.
Am pretty much of a plug and play person. I was told that once I flash the ECM, I can disconnect the unit, is this true? How about the setting for my application. I still want the performance if not more but don't want to take the chance of possibly messing up what I now have. If it wasn't for the sewing machine sound of the pipes I would leave it alone. Everyone tells me that if I change the pipes then I will have to do something about fuel/air management.
With the PV, do I have to have anything else like a AT? Keep in mind, like I said above, this is a stock bike with the 110 SE. Oh, do I need to do anything with the 02 sensors, like block them off. I do not have a laptop, only a Apple computer.
Any thoughts, impute or suggestions would be GREAT!
Thanks in advance.
This is what I want to accomplish. I have a 2010 Softail Convertiable (CVO) 110 SE. The performance over my 07 softail 96 is awesome, lots of torque. I just hate the stock pipes because it sound like a sewing machine. I want to put on V&H Long Shots but V&H does not make a fuel pack for my scoot because they say there is no room under the seat which I agree with. I don't really want to go with the SERT because I have done that before.
Am pretty much of a plug and play person. I was told that once I flash the ECM, I can disconnect the unit, is this true? How about the setting for my application. I still want the performance if not more but don't want to take the chance of possibly messing up what I now have. If it wasn't for the sewing machine sound of the pipes I would leave it alone. Everyone tells me that if I change the pipes then I will have to do something about fuel/air management.
With the PV, do I have to have anything else like a AT? Keep in mind, like I said above, this is a stock bike with the 110 SE. Oh, do I need to do anything with the 02 sensors, like block them off. I do not have a laptop, only a Apple computer.
Any thoughts, impute or suggestions would be GREAT!
Thanks in advance.