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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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I would only make the timing changes. Try to only change 1 thing at a time so you know why something doesn't work the way you expected. After you are done with all your timing changes then go back and autotune a few runs and check for VE change. (My opinion)
 
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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 07:16 PM
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I have had my PV now for about a month but only got a mount for it about a week ago. I am having problems when I turn the bike on it will not boot. I have to turn the ignition switch on and off or the kill switch on and off to get it to boot most times. Sometimes I have to do it 3 or 4 times. Has anyone had this problem?

All so what is the normal range of the engine temperature as far as the high end? So far in this hot south weather it has not gone over 285 degrees F. What is too high so I can program it to warn me if it gets too hot?
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Old Aug 23, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta
I would only make the timing changes. Try to only change 1 thing at a time so you know why something doesn't work the way you expected. After you are done with all your timing changes then go back and autotune a few runs and check for VE change. (My opinion)
I kind of figured that. The bike is working pretty good all around. Last Friday I sent Fuel Moto my current tune and a log to check over and I'm waiting to see if they found any problems with my setup.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 06:36 AM
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I had issue trying to autotune the other day, and I'm wondering if someone can help me figure it out.

2013 Street Bob 103" FM intake and V&H pro pipe running a FM tune. I enabled auto tune and loaded the copy of the FM tune, started the bike up and it idled fine, went to give it some gas and it pop/sputterd/choked and backfired thru the intake. It would never smooth out. Got worried so I shut it off and just reloaded the FM tune without the auto tune and it ran fine. I went back and watched the video to make sure I was doing it right, and I beleive I was. Another strange thing I noticed was that after I loaded the auto tune, when I turned the bike back on the fuel pump prime sounded very strange.

I've been running the fuel moto tune for about 1500 miles and the bike runs great, just a little bit of decel gurgle but nothing major. I then switched to the dyno jet pre-configured tune for the mods I have and the bike ran about the same but got way better fuel mileage (35 w/the FM and 42 with the DJ) and I got NO decel pop at all. So that's why I was trying to run a couple of auto tune sessions with the FM map just to see if it would help out any. I did not try to auto tune the dyno jet map.

My PV is updated to the latest version.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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I've been running one of dynojets tunes, and did some AT to get the VE's taken care of. I had read in some posts back about then using LT to adjust the timing if needed. I ran a data log, went to PV and LT and tried to make adjustments by not using VE's (un-clicked them) so as to just see if any adjustments at spark would occur. I don't think I'm doing it right. Should I have done it differently, like change settings on the PV unit itself when data logging?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tfalcon
I had issue trying to autotune the other day, and I'm wondering if someone can help me figure it out.

2013 Street Bob 103" FM intake and V&H pro pipe running a FM tune. I enabled auto tune and loaded the copy of the FM tune, started the bike up and it idled fine, went to give it some gas and it pop/sputterd/choked and backfired thru the intake. It would never smooth out. Got worried so I shut it off and just reloaded the FM tune without the auto tune and it ran fine. I went back and watched the video to make sure I was doing it right, and I beleive I was. Another strange thing I noticed was that after I loaded the auto tune, when I turned the bike back on the fuel pump prime sounded very strange.

I've been running the fuel moto tune for about 1500 miles and the bike runs great, just a little bit of decel gurgle but nothing major. I then switched to the dyno jet pre-configured tune for the mods I have and the bike ran about the same but got way better fuel mileage (35 w/the FM and 42 with the DJ) and I got NO decel pop at all. So that's why I was trying to run a couple of auto tune sessions with the FM map just to see if it would help out any. I did not try to auto tune the dyno jet map.

My PV is updated to the latest version.
Try autotuning the Fuel Moto map first.

If you are getting better fuel mileage with the DJ map then the AFR's must be set leaner. Compare AFR's and timing on the two maps. If you're happy with the way it runs, you can substitute the leaner AFR's (numerically higher) into the FM map.

Both AFR and timing can effect decel pop...so compare the timing and go with what works best.

Alternatively, you can autotune the DJ map.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nhrider1
Try autotuning the Fuel Moto map first.

If you are getting better fuel mileage with the DJ map then the AFR's must be set leaner. Compare AFR's and timing on the two maps. If you're happy with the way it runs, you can substitute the leaner AFR's (numerically higher) into the FM map.

Both AFR and timing can effect decel pop...so compare the timing and go with what works best.

Alternatively, you can autotune the DJ map.

I was trying to auto tune the fuel moto map...

How do you compare the maps on the computer?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tfalcon
How do you compare the maps on the computer?
Open WinPV, load the DJ tune, load Compare File (FM tune), on the Tune Item Tree everything with a yellow triangle indicates that a change has been made between the two files. Open each one up and look at them.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 04:09 PM
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I apologize if this has been discussed somewhere in this thread, but I have a PV-2 (CAN bus) for my '13 FXDF and I was wondering if the PV-2 is capable of interfacing with the older J1850 data bus on my '04 WG if I buy the J1850 cable. I understand that I would have to buy an additional license to be able to tune another bike with the same unit, just need to know if it is even possible with the PV-2. Thanks
 
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