Power Vision Information Thread
Road Captain
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: kingston ontario
Keep believing that and start running your bike WOT on a nice warm day. You're just NOT getting your head wrapped around this AT ALL. You won't be in closed loop at (Example) WOT and 5000 rpms. Why would you even begin to think that your VE's are correct in that scenario? The VE's need to verified in those areas BEFORE you start playing in that field. I'm gonna leave you alone regarding this because it's obvious you have it all sorted out. Hopefully we don't see you posting in the engine section asking how the holes found a way into your pistons.
how would you go about verifying VE's in those areas before playing in that range?
run to 5000 or so gradually without WOT?
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2013
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From: Massachusetts
im going to bring my A/F down a bit anyway. it is 14.4 and my exhaust in my opnion is a bit grey on the deposits. i was thinkin of setting it to 14.2 and then take a peek at the exhaust deposits on the muffler and watch the temp again. I know this will not bring the temp down much but it may help a smidge. Bike runs fine though so im not worried.
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2013
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From: Massachusetts
Keep believing that and start running your bike WOT on a nice warm day. You're just NOT getting your head wrapped around this AT ALL. You won't be in closed loop at (Example) WOT and 5000 rpms. Why would you even begin to think that your VE's are correct in that scenario? The VE's need to verified in those areas BEFORE you start playing in that field. I'm gonna leave you alone regarding this because it's obvious you have it all sorted out. Hopefully we don't see you posting in the engine section asking how the holes found a way into your pistons.
Like i said i called Jamie and he even agrees it is going to get data in all areas hit on the table when Autotuning. I trust Jamies answers and i believe him. Im not saying your wrong or right. So far so good.
Road Master
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From: Manchester, NH
I had a chance to log what happens when my 2012 Trike enters heat management (I have it set to 284*). Though I can't track AFR, I can track CLI and noticed the following: For a very short time (about 45 seconds) the CLIs fluctuate between 103 & 95. At 289* the Rear CLI goes to 95.3 and remains constant. The Front CLI drops as well but continues to fluctuate around the same 95.3. You probably can't pinpoint as exact AFR value with this but it does show the system at work.
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2010
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closed throttle spark
then change the main timing table to match the closed throttle.
you change the main table timing in the kpa area you idle at.
if you idle at say 35 kpa . then change your timing in the 30 35 kpa and 40 kpa area, 750rpm to 1500 rpms.
then work on tip in.
then change the main timing table to match the closed throttle.
you change the main table timing in the kpa area you idle at.
if you idle at say 35 kpa . then change your timing in the 30 35 kpa and 40 kpa area, 750rpm to 1500 rpms.
then work on tip in.
Road Captain
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 523
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From: kingston ontario
closed throttle spark
then change the main timing table to match the closed throttle.
you change the main table timing in the kpa area you idle at.
if you idle at say 35 kpa . then change your timing in the 30 35 kpa and 40 kpa area, 750rpm to 1500 rpms.
then work on tip in.
then change the main timing table to match the closed throttle.
you change the main table timing in the kpa area you idle at.
if you idle at say 35 kpa . then change your timing in the 30 35 kpa and 40 kpa area, 750rpm to 1500 rpms.
then work on tip in.
thanks strokerjlk
i want to try working my bike/tune as stailjim and wurk truk are describing, figured i would start my learning curve and experimenting with idle.
Last edited by goats; May 8, 2013 at 08:24 PM.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: USA
I had a chance to log what happens when my 2012 Trike enters heat management (I have it set to 284*). Though I can't track AFR, I can track CLI and noticed the following: For a very short time (about 45 seconds) the CLIs fluctuate between 103 & 95. At 289* the Rear CLI goes to 95.3 and remains constant. The Front CLI drops as well but continues to fluctuate around the same 95.3. You probably can't pinpoint as exact AFR value with this but it does show the system at work.
This was more out of curiousity than anything. The nice thing about the PV is one can permanently mount it and be able to monitor temps. If it starts getting up towards 300 it's probably a good time to get out of traffic.
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Road Master
Joined: Jun 2006
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From: Manchester, NH
Jim, if you had the CFS fans you'd never have to worry about traffic again. The fans are that good. The seller is a stand up guy that stands behind his product. When I was doing the EITMS I let the temps get up to 315 and then turned the fans on. I'd say within 5 minutes the temps were down to 274. I wanted to hear the EITMS turn off and it did at that temp.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: USA
This just my experience, but it seems to rack up the hits easier and faster above 2500 rpms. So you might want to really focus on getting those areas below 2500 with plenty of hits, maxed at 99 if you can. Maybe the first 2 times out. Then by the 5th AT run it should all pretty much fall into place.