Power Vision Information Thread
Road Captain
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From: kingston ontario
nope.... the data will still be on the ecm.
Stellar HDF Member
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From: Ashby, Ma
What's a "CAL"?
What to you mean by "Cal" are you meaning "tune"?
I'm just trying toi understand some of the lingo and slang getting thrown around, so I don't go chasing ghost for information.
I'm just trying toi understand some of the lingo and slang getting thrown around, so I don't go chasing ghost for information.
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2010
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From: Monticello Indiana
Cal, tune, fuel map, all the same thing.....
Load equalizer is used when installing led turn signal "bulbs" replacing the stock bulbs. Led's pull less current so the turn signals blink very fast the load equalizer corrects this.
Load equalizer is used when installing led turn signal "bulbs" replacing the stock bulbs. Led's pull less current so the turn signals blink very fast the load equalizer corrects this.
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From: Ashby, Ma
It gets confusing (at least for me) as not only are various terms used sometimes interchangeably but this thread is a primary source of knowledge, but since the product and software has evolved so rapidly that there is lots of information that is now no longer valid. Example: Log Tuner as a separate software application. And, various sources sometimes are entirely out of sync with each other, such as the Users Guide versus the WinPV helpfile.
Understanding how various pieces of this product all fit together and when to use what functions and where are a challenge of sifting through lots of writing and but no real definitive source.
Without you knowledge guys answering questions Jamie and Brian at FM would never get off the phone.
Road Captain
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From: Shreveport,La
I just downloaded the update for the PV firmware. I then took my last map and updated it with the PV. I did a map compare of the original map against the new updated map. The only thing that changed was in Airflow section. I now have numbers in Active Exhaust Duty Cycle for 1st through 4th gears.
Can someone explain what that is and how the changes affect the performance? Do I need these changes with an 08 with the 103 ci, P&P head work, 255 cams, SuperTrapp 2:1 exhaust, and SE A/F?
Can someone explain what that is and how the changes affect the performance? Do I need these changes with an 08 with the 103 ci, P&P head work, 255 cams, SuperTrapp 2:1 exhaust, and SE A/F?
Road Captain
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From: Shreveport,La
I decided to call FM and Jamie told me that was for the European bikes and didn't apply to my bike so not to worry about using it. The only real changes in the new firmware was for the dyno tuning of bikes on the dyno. I just deleted the new updated map and stayed with my original map. He said it was ok either way, but I didn't want it in my maps folder to get confused with. Some times I get too much stuff in there.....LOL.
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Road Captain
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From: USA
i tried looking at this through log tuner and i can see what you are talking about.
is there something i should do aside from using the save log button on the data log screen to see the extra information (like knock, hit count etc) ?
the extra info i am looking for simply wasnt there to see after calc tune (log tuner)... the tables all showed up just not the info.
i assume i have to add extra channels to be recorded but i am not very familiar with this.... my experience with pv started after autotune came out
one last thing.... the auto tune version was a little different than the log tune version (same tune) after calculating, applying and saving... could this be attributed to different settings between the 2 processes (like min/max hit count per cell being used for example) ?
is there something i should do aside from using the save log button on the data log screen to see the extra information (like knock, hit count etc) ?
the extra info i am looking for simply wasnt there to see after calc tune (log tuner)... the tables all showed up just not the info.
i assume i have to add extra channels to be recorded but i am not very familiar with this.... my experience with pv started after autotune came out
one last thing.... the auto tune version was a little different than the log tune version (same tune) after calculating, applying and saving... could this be attributed to different settings between the 2 processes (like min/max hit count per cell being used for example) ?
Here's the easiest way to deal with timing. Set up a .PVV just like you would for a Log Tuner run. Save whatever you need for your cal. EX: TPS cals save fr and rr VE, AFR, and fr and rr spark. Go datalog a nice ride. Then use log tuner. Take the check marks out of VE fr and rr so it doesn't dork up your VE work. It will just make changes to your timing tables. It will only import your timing changes. Much much easier than trying to analyze a datalog to determine exaclty where the knock occured. It's a tad difficult to determine EXACTLY where to pull timing based on datalog. So, let the Log Tuner do it for you. Just remember to take the check marks out of fr and rr VE's.
Road Captain
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From: USA
Cal is short for calibration, same as map, same as tune. Don't be afraid to ask. Unless you're a pro tuner this stuff is hard to keep up with. Every question asked helps someone, either now or down the road.