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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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The map that fuelmoto supplied with
my PV1 works pretty good. Just alittle decel popping going on.
I go though the steps to autotune this map and the bike runs like crap. There is alot of decel popping, the motor runs hotter. Normal temp is 240. During At it runs 255-265.
Should my scoot run the same weather the same map is in autotune or not in AT ? Should AT build off the orginal map?
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Originally Posted by rsking45
The map that fuelmoto supplied with
my PV1 works pretty good. Just alittle decel popping going on.
I go though the steps to autotune this map and the bike runs like crap. There is alot of decel popping, the motor runs hotter. Normal temp is 240. During At it runs 255-265.
Should my scoot run the same weather the same map is in autotune or not in AT ? Should AT build off the orginal map?
Thanks folks
Be aware that autotune removes 4 deg. of timing and sets AFR to 14.6 (.982 lamda) from the tune you are running. It also disables AE/DE/EITMS/PE/ and Adaptive Control. You are not running the exact same map. So you are running lean and removing timing during autotune. I'm not surprised your engine is running poorly and getting hot.
 
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Will the AT run get better after a few short runs or is it a waist of time.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 11:18 AM
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After doing the AT ride, save that session back to the unit. It will name it something like AT001. Then load that and ride. It will be better. Then run another AT on that map...you will have the popping and heat during the AT session, but when you load it back to the unit and ride outside of AT it will run good. It should get better after each successive AT session, but not necessarily within the AT session.
 
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I just heard back from Brian @ FM. He told me pretty much the same thing.
Ill keep running AT and saving the learned values and save to same slot. Iv done 2 AT runs. Hoping a few more runs and it will be gtg
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Originally Posted by nhrider1
Be aware that autotune removes 4 deg. of timing and sets AFR to 14.6 (.982 lamda) from the tune you are running. It also disables AE/DE/EITMS/PE/ and Adaptive Control. You are not running the exact same map. So you are running lean and removing timing during autotune. I'm not surprised your engine is running poorly and getting hot.
Very interesting...I thought AT would map to lambda you choose?
Is this only a PV thing?

What is AT achieving if it's using only .982 lambda?
 
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Very interesting...I thought AT would map to lambda you choose?
Is this only a PV thing?

What is AT achieving if it's using only .982 lambda?
It keeps the narrow band O2 sensors in play for the entire map, so it can adjust VE's. When you save the tune it replaces your original lambda values and timing.
 
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Originally Posted by rsking45
I just heard back from Brian @ FM. He told me pretty much the same thing.
Ill keep running AT and saving the learned values and save to same slot. Iv done 2 AT runs. Hoping a few more runs and it will be gtg
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You should be good after a few more runs.
 
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Originally Posted by nhrider1
It keeps the narrow band O2 sensors in play for the entire map, so it can adjust VE's. When you save the tune it replaces your original lambda values and timing.

ahh, so in this case, the user is using the stock narrow band o2's....this I did not know about the PV vs. the PCV!!
 
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I did a few AT runs and its all good. no decel popping and bike is running strong.
I cant ride now though,My scoot has 4100 mikes on it and a rear wheel bearing blew out last night while going 50.That wasnt fun
 
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