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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 09:12 PM
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I have noticed a slight pulsing under light braking on the front brakes. Not warpage so to speak but a slight pulse at slow speed light braking. Under normal to even severe braking all was fine,,,, or at least felt good.

I had finished up for the time being with putting a set of fangs on the bike. They still need more work. And was setting there looking at the right front brake disc and something did no look right. The bolts and washers did not look the same. I looked up the tq specs, 16 - 24 ft. lbs. grabbed a tq wrench and bit. They were not right. One bolt was at or above 24 ft. lbs. one across from it was at 18 ft. lbs and the others were at 14 ft. lbs. Both disc were out the same amount and in the same pattern. Put 24 ft. lbs. to the other bolts.

Took the bike out for a ride and the low speed brake pulsing was gone.
 
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I ...And was setting there looking at the right front brake disc and something did no look right. The bolts and washers did not look the same. I looked up the tq specs, 16 - 24 ft. lbs. grabbed a tq wrench and bit. They were not right. One bolt was at or above 24 ft. lbs. one across from it was at 18 ft. lbs and the others were at 14 ft. lbs. Both disc were out the same amount and in the same pattern. Put 24 ft. lbs. to the other bolts.

Took the bike out for a ride and the low speed brake pulsing was gone.
First, good eye! Next what got rid of the pulsing? How?
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Old Aug 10, 2017 | 11:28 PM
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12,300 on my RK..just returned from Glacier where I noticed the front brake at highway speeds pulsating the brake lever and windscreen shaking during the trip, under 40mph not noticeable ...brought it in and they said rotors are slightly warped but within spec..had new American Elites put on just before I left for Glacier..made them go thru everything remotely possible that could be a contributor..in the end if I want it fixed I have to pay for new rotors..that sucks
 
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Old Aug 11, 2017 | 10:07 AM
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12,300 on my RK..just returned from Glacier where I noticed the front brake at highway speeds pulsating the brake lever and windscreen shaking during the trip, under 40mph not noticeable ...brought it in and they said rotors are slightly warped but within spec..had new American Elites put on just before I left for Glacier..made them go thru everything remotely possible that could be a contributor..in the end if I want it fixed I have to pay for new rotors..that sucks
Are there better rotors? I'll admit that I am an aggressive rider. Mine are not terrible but I know that it will get worse and they will need replaced. This is at 2500 miles.
 
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Are there better rotors? I'll admit that I am an aggressive rider. Mine are not terrible but I know that it will get worse and they will need replaced. This is at 2500 miles.
that's what I'm looking into
 
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Partial repost from M8 Problems:

Bought a new 17 RG in September last year.
Noticed warped rotors. Figured I'd get it taken care of on the 1000 mi service.
Warranty denied because the rotors were within .001 of the limit. They were bad enough to bob the fairing up and down when lightly braking. I was told I overheated the rotors. Lol
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Bought a new 17 RG in September last year.
Noticed warped rotors. Figured I'd get it taken care of on the 1000 mi service.
Warranty denied because the rotors were within .001 of the limit. They were bad enough to bob the fairing up and down when lightly braking. I was told I overheated the rotors. Lol
Bob
yeah, ..~80% of my 12K miles was Touring the highways so not a lot of braking occurring
 
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I had noticed a bit of pulsating on the front brakes as well recently but blew it off thinking maybe I picked up a grasshopper or something on one of the rotors and that I would clean them both up real good during the next therapeutic cleaning session. So while I was washing the front wheel, I grabbed a hold of the right rotor to scrub it with some Simple Green on a scrub pad and notice that the rotor would actually rotate back and forth on the mounting bolts just a bit but the left side did not. I ran a torque wrench around all the bolts on both sides and found nothing out of spec. I know they are supposed to float in and out to absorb some of the possible warpage that may occur, but front to back is not good. While my bike is at the dealers having it's 2 page transmission checklist done to it, they are replacing that rotor under warranty for me. These are not the stock rotors. I had them upgrade to some slutty *** chrome ones when I upgraded to the chrome wheels. We'll see how they feel when, and if, I ever get my bike back.

While I'm thinking about it, isn't the whole concept of "Floating Rotors" to absorb a slight bit of warpage or imperfection in them? I mean, within .001" of spec? Would that make that large of a difference that now it can be felt?
 
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Originally Posted by MotoJockey
I had noticed a bit of pulsating on the front brakes as well recently but blew it off thinking maybe I picked up a grasshopper or something on one of the rotors and that I would clean them both up real good during the next therapeutic cleaning session. So while I was washing the front wheel, I grabbed a hold of the right rotor to scrub it with some Simple Green on a scrub pad and notice that the rotor would actually rotate back and forth on the mounting bolts just a bit but the left side did not. I ran a torque wrench around all the bolts on both sides and found nothing out of spec. I know they are supposed to float in and out to absorb some of the possible warpage that may occur, but front to back is not good. While my bike is at the dealers having it's 2 page transmission checklist done to it, they are replacing that rotor under warranty for me. These are not the stock rotors. I had them upgrade to some slutty *** chrome ones when I upgraded to the chrome wheels. We'll see how they feel when, and if, I ever get my bike back.

While I'm thinking about it, isn't the whole concept of "Floating Rotors" to absorb a slight bit of warpage or imperfection in them? I mean, within .001" of spec? Would that make that large of a difference that now it can be felt?
No partial floating like my king has and full floating are for expansion and contraction over all. There is nothing to make run out easier to deal with. Floating calipers help to a degree but truthfully not much.
 
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