110 problems?
Road Captain
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I think the problem lies were when the case is bored for the 4in. bore displacment, everything gets out of wack! I dont mean to be a F**kin Di*ck but now my bike is in the shop now for another oil leak they said somthing possibly wrong with the head studs pulling up or out or some ****. Any way the POS is leaking from both sides front and rear cylinders. I love the bike just want a new motor with service up to 5000mi. or longer if thing progressively go down hill! My problem is I hope having the bike 1 year wont effect a lemon sittuation for return or what ever the F*ck is going to happen my bike will be 1 year old 9/30/08 I feel like Harley should make good on this in some way! I dont care if you got to give me a 96in with a 107kit requires no boreing . I want a black motor any way.
Cruiser
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Man, If I were you I would be at the dealer every day until they agreed to replace that engine. Don't get mad, stay cool and be factual, and convince the dealer that your engine is trash. Being consistantly there smiling in their face - maybe some bad breath, like eat some limberger cheese. They'll be glad to get you satisfied with a new engine and stay away! Anyhow, you ought to get the engine replaced....there is a lemon law....
Since the leak continues after a repair, it stands to reason the the studs may be pulling out of the crank cases. That's a very good point and very logical. If new parts were used seems unlikely that their QA department missed again...but then....
Since the leak continues after a repair, it stands to reason the the studs may be pulling out of the crank cases. That's a very good point and very logical. If new parts were used seems unlikely that their QA department missed again...but then....
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My 07 UCSE had some starting issues. Terrible noise when I tried to start it. Kept thinking was due to high compression and perhaps the Power Commander, dealer informed me of some of the starter issues. For about 30 days now there had been parts on order to fix it..but they never came. Finally dealer contacted MOCO and they agreed to replace the starter. Just got the call yesterday from dealer. Says it is fixed and they have test started it periodically all day long yesterday and no issues. I pick it up today just in time for a ride to Hot Springs.
Service manager did say something about how that since this engine is so high compression it takes all the battery can give to start it up. He suggested battery tender be hooked up when bike not in use. Keeping the battery at full capacity he said will help with starter issues.
Any thoughts on a battery tender use?
DanB
Service manager did say something about how that since this engine is so high compression it takes all the battery can give to start it up. He suggested battery tender be hooked up when bike not in use. Keeping the battery at full capacity he said will help with starter issues.
Any thoughts on a battery tender use?
DanB
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Well, I have never been one to flame other forums. If I don't like them, I don't read them. I am also a member of CVOHarley and I have found a wealth of useful info. I also did fork out 32K+ for a CVO and the only time I get a warm and fuzzy feeling is when I just get thru cleaning it. As soon as I hit the starter, I get a lump in the pit of my stomach. It is actually my fault for purchasing the 07 with the new engine, should have waited a year for them to work out bugs. I also own an 07 Heritage 96 twincam and have had absolutely no problems. Motor sound sweet and is tight as a drum. Problems with the 110 motors will generally not show up until around 5k miles due to the nature of the problems. If bike is left stock, I see no way to run that mill for very long without issues. THERE IS TOO MUCH HEAT due to very lean conditions. Heads will warp, oil literally boils in case. JMHO though for what it is worth.
Road Captain
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ORIGINAL: DanB
My 07 UCSE had some starting issues. Terrible noise when I tried to start it. Kept thinking was due to high compression and perhaps the Power Commander, dealer informed me of some of the starter issues. For about 30 days now there had been parts on order to fix it..but they never came. Finally dealer contacted MOCO and they agreed to replace the starter. Just got the call yesterday from dealer. Says it is fixed and they have test started it periodically all day long yesterday and no issues. I pick it up today just in time for a ride to Hot Springs.
Service manager did say something about how that since this engine is so high compression it takes all the battery can give to start it up. He suggested battery tender be hooked up when bike not in use. Keeping the battery at full capacity he said will help with starter issues.
Any thoughts on a battery tender use?
DanB
My 07 UCSE had some starting issues. Terrible noise when I tried to start it. Kept thinking was due to high compression and perhaps the Power Commander, dealer informed me of some of the starter issues. For about 30 days now there had been parts on order to fix it..but they never came. Finally dealer contacted MOCO and they agreed to replace the starter. Just got the call yesterday from dealer. Says it is fixed and they have test started it periodically all day long yesterday and no issues. I pick it up today just in time for a ride to Hot Springs.
Service manager did say something about how that since this engine is so high compression it takes all the battery can give to start it up. He suggested battery tender be hooked up when bike not in use. Keeping the battery at full capacity he said will help with starter issues.
Any thoughts on a battery tender use?
DanB
my bike sounds like **** to whenI start it . Whats the compression ratio on your bike? My bike is only 9.5:1 your bike dosent need full power from battery ,rather they needto install a high torque starter or gear reducted starter if thats were the problem lies.The sound is horrid it sound like the pos is going to throw a rod for what ever reason! Well there has been an update on my bike if your interested! they now say the leak on my bike was due to loose studs in the case after the first oil leak was patched i say patched because it seems as if they only did the gaskets and didnt address the issue like somthing being warped or bad barroles this one is going to be cheaper to replace than having the techs wase there time on it! and if they put in new motor they need to comp the service up to 5000mi. F^ck I could go on all f*cking night about this so Ibetter just stop now!!!
BRASS TAX = $30,000+ And not even 5000miles on it yet!
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If you have an engine that has warped heads and is actually boiling the oil in the cases, you may find a future in writing for science fiction magazines and you should be advised to get off the motorcycle and call the bomb squad. 'Cause chances are, it's going to explode. I'm wondering if you are joking...?
So rather than 'flame' a forum, you 'flame' someones post. So what's the difference? Opinions are like 'A' holes....
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Keep your cool Detonator, hand the problem back to Harley Davidson and have an attorney contact then about your wishes. One well written letter could make a world of difference. But stay cool, life's too damned short to get all worked up over a bloody motorcycle! The money maybe but not a motorcycle....
So rather than 'flame' a forum, you 'flame' someones post. So what's the difference? Opinions are like 'A' holes....
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Keep your cool Detonator, hand the problem back to Harley Davidson and have an attorney contact then about your wishes. One well written letter could make a world of difference. But stay cool, life's too damned short to get all worked up over a bloody motorcycle! The money maybe but not a motorcycle....
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ORIGINAL: 08CVORK
If you have an engine that has warped heads and is actually boiling the oil in the cases, you may find a future in writing for science fiction magazines and you should be advised to get off the motorcycle and call the bomb squad. 'Cause chances are, it's going to explode. I'm wondering if you are joking...?
So rather than 'flame' a forum, you 'flame' someones post. So what's the difference? Opinions are like 'A' holes....
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Keep your cool Detonator, hand the problem back to Harley Davidson and have an attorney contact then about your wishes. One well written letter could make a world of difference. But stay cool, life's too damned short to get all worked up over a bloody motorcycle! The money maybe but not a motorcycle....
If you have an engine that has warped heads and is actually boiling the oil in the cases, you may find a future in writing for science fiction magazines and you should be advised to get off the motorcycle and call the bomb squad. 'Cause chances are, it's going to explode. I'm wondering if you are joking...?
So rather than 'flame' a forum, you 'flame' someones post. So what's the difference? Opinions are like 'A' holes....
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Keep your cool Detonator, hand the problem back to Harley Davidson and have an attorney contact then about your wishes. One well written letter could make a world of difference. But stay cool, life's too damned short to get all worked up over a bloody motorcycle! The money maybe but not a motorcycle....
Cool is as cool does! Going to talk to a professional on monday!
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RE: 110 problems?
Wow!!! Did amf buy Harley again and begin "negotiations" with the uaw?
With all these issues w/the 110's AND the 96's, it sounds like they have serious quality control issues.
It's 1974 all over again !!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!!!!!!!!!!!
With all these issues w/the 110's AND the 96's, it sounds like they have serious quality control issues.
It's 1974 all over again !!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!!!!!!!!!!!
Tourer
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Got back from Hot Springs yesterday. I had the starter replaced last week. Started up fine at dealership...home...but got on road and once again..not all the time..but every now and then I get that lump in my throat wondering if this is gonna be the one where all the teeth fall out? It starts...but sure nuf..that clanging comes back every once in a while.
I'll ride a little more and if it continues I'll take it back to dealer and ask "whats next?"..
DanB
I'll ride a little more and if it continues I'll take it back to dealer and ask "whats next?"..
DanB