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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Actually people are lazy , few use the fork lock and even less will use an added disc or padlock of some kind. I know 3 guys who don't even use the key to turn off the switch or neck lock they rely wholly on the FOB.

Pop the dash switch if the necks not locked and its gone in 15 seconds or less.

OP the guys deliberately left the channel locks as a screw you , and they were 2 of them one had to drop the thief off
3 guys can just pick it up and put it in the back of a truck, drive a block, strap down, and keep on going.

2 if the fork isn't locked.

Could probably do it myself with my covered trailer. Just wheel it in there and take off. Security can be dealt with later.
 

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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 11:37 AM
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The thieves that were stealing bikes here recently just had a large van with a sliding door. They park super close to the bike, open the door, tip the bike over into the door opening and pull the back in and back on a big rug or carpet. 30 seconds tops and bikes were missing from everywhere. They were parting them out in a garage overnight and by the next morning they were dumping the frames in the trash compactors behind Lowes and Home Depot. It never mattered if they could start or ride the bike. They only got caught because a frame jammed one of the compactors so the police had a stake out and followed the thieves home. Found a garage full of parts being shipped to a distributor in Vegas.

Only chaining the bike to something stationary would slow that type of thief down.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by langwilliams
backing heat applies to bike jacking...I have a carry permit an you can not use force to save property (at least in Ohio)...if they are stealing it in your presence an you "feel your life or someones life is threatened" you can use deadly force. Using a weapon is the absolute last option... even if in a clear justified case it's a legal nightmare an expensive to defend yourself.
but let's not get off topic too much

Depends on your local police department, attorney general, and your state's laws.

Here, you could work it into a "stand your ground" situation if they don't take off. Some states/police departments will charge you no matter what. Frankly because they just don't like guns, period, even if you were completely justified and legal in what you're doing so they're going to inflict the greatest punishment possible regardless.

My police department will just look at the situation and if your story matches what they see, there aren't any immediate charges. If your story continues to add up, there won't ever be any charges.

Personally, I have no qualms about shooting thieves. It's not just your property you're saving. You're saving future victims from the thief too. They used to hang people for stealing a horse until we got into this whole rehabilitation BS.
 

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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 01:43 PM
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Yep...no amount of alarm is going to stop someone if they want it bad enough.

I use the steering head lock and I added the Radio Shack siren alarm to my existing factory silent alarm. Dirt cheap and it is freaking loud. ...but I know it won't stop the lift and gone style theft mentioned above.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rjg883c
The counterpoint to this is that sometimes even a minor effort at security will cause some thieves to look elsewhere. There are many more thieves out there looking for things to steal then groups of guys looking for a motorcycle to "toss the bike in a pick-up".

Nothing is perfect protection, but does that mean people might as well think 'whatever happens is just what happens, accept it without attempting to prevent something from happening'?
Exactly. Alarms and such are not perfect protection against all thieves, but it is faulty logic to say that this means alarms are not effective. If they deter or prevent most thieves, that ups the odds of your bike not being stolen. The perfect should not be the enemy of the good.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2017 | 09:44 AM
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Again I think the best deterrent/saviour is a decent tracker especially if you are in the vicinity of the motorcycle. It doesn't get any better than a telephone call to your mobile notifying you that a disturbance has been detected surely?
 
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