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Glad you got it back on the road. Thanks for sharing so we can all learn along with you, though I’m sure it’s tough to go through. You’ve convinced me to definitely stop at Stage II. If I need to go faster (I don’t), I’ll get a Ducati. Love the radical Breakout anyway.
Indeed, I should have stopped at Stage II with my 2017 Breakout as well. I originally wanted the Stage V Tire Shredder, but the dealer said the highest I could go without voiding my warranty was Stage III. Luckily I had the work done in the first 60 days of owning the bike, because I had a few issues after the upgrade that caused damage in the primary when starting the bike while it is hot (The primary would jam and not allow the bike to turn over). The dealer contacted Harley Corporate and they said that it was a known issue with the 103 to 110 conversion, and they authorised a bunch of upgrades to the bike to try and correct the issue (stronger battery, clutch, starter, compensator...) It was at least a few grand worth of work, all covered under warranty. They also said that they were working on a new map that would reduce compression at start.
After all that work, the problem persisted, and their answer was to wait for the engine to cool off before restarting it (the engine would get smoking hot). This was about the time when the new bikes were launched and the new Fat Bob caught my eye... the rest is history.
Here is a pic of my Breakout just before I traded it in... I freakin loved that bike too.
2017 Breakout - Traded in for 2018 Fat Bob<br/>SE 110 Stage III Street Performance Kit, Bassani Pro Street exhaust, Heavy Breather SE, Defiance pegs and grips, Profile mirrors, Daylighter, CVO style speedo/tach, custom plate holder, under fender brake light, custom derby, and various nut covers etc
What was wrong with it and why did harley knock ya back on ya claim ?.
Get ya self a proper helmet , gloves and footwear.
Dress for the slide not the ride. With that helmet your going to grind that pretty face away the first time you fall off.
Its not IF it happens. It’s WHEN it happens
Indeed, I should have stopped at Stage II with my 2017 Breakout as well. I originally wanted the Stage V Tire Shredder, but the dealer said the highest I could go without voiding my warranty was Stage III. Luckily I had the work done in the first 60 days of owning the bike, because I had a few issues after the upgrade that caused damage in the primary when starting the bike while it is hot (The primary would jam and not allow the bike to turn over). The dealer contacted Harley Corporate and they said that it was a known issue with the 103 to 110 conversion, and they authorised a bunch of upgrades to the bike to try and correct the issue (stronger battery, clutch, starter, compensator...) It was at least a few grand worth of work, all covered under warranty. They also said that they were working on a new map that would reduce compression at start.
After all that work, the problem persisted, and their answer was to wait for the engine to cool off before restarting it (the engine would get smoking hot). This was about the time when the new bikes were launched and the new Fat Bob caught my eye... the rest is history.
Here is a pic of my Breakout just before I traded it in... I freakin loved that bike too.
2017 Breakout - Traded in for 2018 Fat Bob<br/>SE 110 Stage III Street Performance Kit, Bassani Pro Street exhaust, Heavy Breather SE, Defiance pegs and grips, Profile mirrors, Daylighter, CVO style speedo/tach, custom plate holder, under fender brake light, custom derby, and various nut covers etc
We ran out of cash after upgrading to stage 5 and then plus $3500 to fix it I bet you're happy now with that new ride i am happy for you !
No more buying bike from Harley after this.
Last edited by Jessica Sinclair; Nov 3, 2017 at 03:01 AM.
You wonder how good the 110 was at all? ...some didn't seem to think it added much over the 103, and there was a bit of discussion about hard starting ...although the new config with reduced spark advance did seem to help that. A 107 always looked like a better bet when I was reading up on it.
So for the benefit of other 110's, what was wrong with it when they tore it down, and is it tuned properly now, and what numbers did you manage to get out of the dyno in the end?
1. Is this the 1st time in the history of the forums a girl has posted? You guys are killing me. Must be all that sensitivity training the military jammed down my throat, sorry about that!
2. Hard to tell if the dealership is the bad guy with the limited info posted here.
3. In general, Indian is no better than HD in regard to honoring a warranty on a modified bike. In fact Indian is probably worse in this respect since all their stuff is proprietary. My indy mechanic won't even touch Indian.
4. I love that there are so many options, but stage V sounds like you're trying to turn your HD into your Ducati. Nothing wrong with that and certainly no judgement, but the more I read (on the HD forums) the more I think I need to enjoy my bike for what it is . Regardless of warranty, cost, and who is at fault, I'd be very frustrated if I dumped a bunch of money into my bike to make it faster and then had to sit around for a few months after things didn't work out right.
5. I just noticed the passenger pegs are down. Who are you torturing on back with the stock seat?
6. Glad your bike is once again running well. The bike looks awesome and I bet it really scoots!
Last edited by Mike flies; Nov 3, 2017 at 06:38 AM.
You wonder how good the 110 was at all? ...some didn't seem to think it added much over the 103, and there was a bit of discussion about hard starting ...although the new config with reduced spark advance did seem to help that. A 107 always looked like a better bet when I was reading up on it.
So for the benefit of other 110's, what was wrong with it when they tore it down, and is it tuned properly now, and what numbers did you manage to get out of the dyno in the end?
110 takes off really fast and there are plenty of power every where for over taking road trains at high speed.
The only thing is i can no longer cruise around having fun ... it's lost that innocence if you know what i mean !
If i knew Harleys weren't so reliable i would have just gone 120R like my husband's Breakout.
Last edited by Jessica Sinclair; Nov 3, 2017 at 07:48 AM.
110 takes off really fast and there are plenty of power every where for over taking road trains at high speed.
The only thing is i can no longer cruise around having fun ... it's lost that innocence if you know what i mean !
If i knew Harleys weren't so reliable i would have just gone 120R like my husband's Breakout.
Generally they are reliable. the 120R is a Harley motor too. I know the innocence you're talking about and the many great parts of a Harley and motorcycling in general that aren't about just raw speed and takeoff. Your Duc should be taking care of that part. Harleys feel different for a reason. Many have sworn they will never buy HD again....most do anyway. They get under your skin.
If you really wanted a performance Harley, you needed to go with a reputable builder and tuner. They would have chosen much different upgrades than SE parts.
Generally they are reliable. the 120R is a Harley motor too. I know the innocence you're talking about and the many great parts of a Harley and motorcycling in general that aren't about just raw speed and takeoff. Your Duc should be taking care of that part. Harleys feel different for a reason. Many have sworn they will never buy HD again....most do anyway. They get under your skin.
If you really wanted a performance Harley, you needed to go with a reputable builder and tuner. They would have chosen much different upgrades than SE parts.
Best of luck on your future bike enjoyment.
Thank you next time i do anything to this Harley it will be with S&S
I actually meant starting as in the engine, not taking off from a stop. Never mind, I was only curious about the techie stuff, like what was actually wrong and if it is fixed properly, or if the same issue is destined to happen again.
I will say though that my stock 114 is enough for me, having plenty of power from top to bottom. No matter what I do, it will never be as fast as my bone stock Yamaha liter bike. When I want to experience what Chuck Yeager felt, I take that for a ride.
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I bet you're happy now with that new ride 
i am happy for you !
