Another Dreaded Click, Click...
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New starter relay seems to be a dud. When you cycle the ignition switch to OFF and hear a click, did you confirm it was coming from the relay?
The green wire to the starter solenoid. When you get the about 7.5V, that is with the green wire connected to the solenoid right? What do you get when it's not plugged in to the solenoid? I think you also mentioned that the green wire had no power at one point. You moved some wires and now it has power. The voltage drop could be due to the wire itself or one of the connectors that it has being damaged or corroded.
Is the bike's starter, clutch and all together enough to try bypassing the green wire? I can't remember if you tried running a wire direct from the battery + to the solenoid where the green wire plugs in. If you try this, MAKE SURE your in neutral.
Just a thought,
Tom
The green wire to the starter solenoid. When you get the about 7.5V, that is with the green wire connected to the solenoid right? What do you get when it's not plugged in to the solenoid? I think you also mentioned that the green wire had no power at one point. You moved some wires and now it has power. The voltage drop could be due to the wire itself or one of the connectors that it has being damaged or corroded.
Is the bike's starter, clutch and all together enough to try bypassing the green wire? I can't remember if you tried running a wire direct from the battery + to the solenoid where the green wire plugs in. If you try this, MAKE SURE your in neutral.
Just a thought,
Tom
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Okay it hammer time,
on my old starter, if I tapped the solenoid with the wood end of a hammer and hit the start button I could get it to start, maybe this solenoid has a similar situation?
on my old starter, if I tapped the solenoid with the wood end of a hammer and hit the start button I could get it to start, maybe this solenoid has a similar situation?
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Follow the troubleshooting steps.
If so, what is the voltage at the ignition switch red/black wire while the start button is pressed?
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For S & G, as mentioned, try a jumper wire from the battery + to the solenoid terminal where the green wire would be. If the starter cranks the engine, then there is a wiring issue still. If all you hear is the solenoid on the starter solidly click, but no spin. Then the starter/solenoid is likely bad.
Remember, when you use the jumper from battery to solenoid, the starter will "normally" spin with the KEY in the off position. It will NOT start/run, just turn the engine over.
Also as mentioned, make sure the battery to starter cable is clean and not corroded on the ends or internally under the insulation.
EDIT: If you try the jumper wire and it will not crank the engine over (provided the battery and battery cable to the starter is in good condition). You either have a bad starter, starter teeth to clutch teeth spacing is wrong as in not meshing correctly, or a seized engine. JMHO.
Tom
Remember, when you use the jumper from battery to solenoid, the starter will "normally" spin with the KEY in the off position. It will NOT start/run, just turn the engine over.
Also as mentioned, make sure the battery to starter cable is clean and not corroded on the ends or internally under the insulation.
EDIT: If you try the jumper wire and it will not crank the engine over (provided the battery and battery cable to the starter is in good condition). You either have a bad starter, starter teeth to clutch teeth spacing is wrong as in not meshing correctly, or a seized engine. JMHO.
Tom
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Already did that same results. And before installing the outer primary, with plugs out turned it over with socket on compensator, has good compression. Bike hasn't ran in three years, so I put some marvels mystic oil and fogging oil in the plug hole so the cylinder walls and rings would not be dry.
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10.16 when start button pressed, 11.98 when not pressed.
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For S & G, as mentioned, try a jumper wire from the battery + to the solenoid terminal where the green wire would be. If the starter cranks the engine, then there is a wiring issue still. If all you hear is the solenoid on the starter solidly click, but no spin. Then the starter/solenoid is likely bad.
Remember, when you use the jumper from battery to solenoid, the starter will "normally" spin with the KEY in the off position. It will NOT start/run, just turn the engine over.
Also as mentioned, make sure the battery to starter cable is clean and not corroded on the ends or internally under the insulation.
EDIT: If you try the jumper wire and it will not crank the engine over (provided the battery and battery cable to the starter is in good condition). You either have a bad starter, starter teeth to clutch teeth spacing is wrong as in not meshing correctly, or a seized engine. JMHO.
Tom
Remember, when you use the jumper from battery to solenoid, the starter will "normally" spin with the KEY in the off position. It will NOT start/run, just turn the engine over.
Also as mentioned, make sure the battery to starter cable is clean and not corroded on the ends or internally under the insulation.
EDIT: If you try the jumper wire and it will not crank the engine over (provided the battery and battery cable to the starter is in good condition). You either have a bad starter, starter teeth to clutch teeth spacing is wrong as in not meshing correctly, or a seized engine. JMHO.
Tom
Also I don't think the engine is seized, since it turns over when I turn the compensator bolt, it turns and there is compression, since you can hear the compression with plugs out.
I cleaned all of the grounds and both ends of the positive battery cable also.
As for the meshing of jackshaft pinion gear meshing with clutch I used the original clutch and the pinion gear was exactly the same as the old one.
Last edited by mikey95hd; Jul 20, 2023 at 08:50 PM.