90mph + .... nothing!!
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From: 40 miles Northeast of Indy..
Bolt in Cams is sometimes over thought by Us when picking one.
I studied Cams for several months before picking mine and now 3yrs later I really think any bolt in cam that has less than 38* intake close and lift under .550 will do U a great job.
Stage 1 get U motor running smoother but don't really improve it that much.
U have to do cams and get rid of that EPA cam to really wake them up.
Look through this site and pick one that meets above IC and lift.
http://www.bigboyzcycles.com/tccams.htm
The lower the intake close the better TQ in the low-mid RPM range (30*-38*).
40* and above, then it will make better TQ in the Mid to Upper rpm range.
I studied Cams for several months before picking mine and now 3yrs later I really think any bolt in cam that has less than 38* intake close and lift under .550 will do U a great job.
Stage 1 get U motor running smoother but don't really improve it that much.
U have to do cams and get rid of that EPA cam to really wake them up.
Look through this site and pick one that meets above IC and lift.
http://www.bigboyzcycles.com/tccams.htm
The lower the intake close the better TQ in the low-mid RPM range (30*-38*).
40* and above, then it will make better TQ in the Mid to Upper rpm range.
Tourer
Joined: Mar 2010
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Well this is a thread all over the place.
1. Your bike.... ride it how you want.
2. I have a Honda Civic SI, the thing runs like a bottle rocket. Red lines at 8000 rpm and 200 horses.
3. Cam it up and a little head work and your problems will be solved.
Have a great day.
1. Your bike.... ride it how you want.
2. I have a Honda Civic SI, the thing runs like a bottle rocket. Red lines at 8000 rpm and 200 horses.
3. Cam it up and a little head work and your problems will be solved.
Have a great day.
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From: Central Jersey
Yeah..to answer the original question.. do a google search for some modified TC96's.. with a good tune, a good set of cams (Usually the Andrews 37H, or the Woods T6-6 / Woods 555's), get the head work done (open up the breathers).. the numbers will be comparable to the 103's, and in some cases surpass them.. the SE204's are a good cam and will produce low to mid-range HP and Torque, but if you want to jump on it on the highway, then look for the SE255's or something that produce more torque in the 3500-5500 RPM range. I told myself im going to wait until i have like 15000 miles on my TC96b before i do cams on it..and im probably going Andrews 37h or the Woods 555s.
I've had my Sportster up to 98mph (it wouldn't go any faster, no matter how hard i tried), and I had my FatBoy Lo up to 108 when i first got it just to see if it would do it.. scared the **** out of me, not to mention turned me in to a giant parachute.. I have no need and certainly no desire to go that fast again.. and if I have a woman on the back of my bike, her safety is my primary concern..and if she can't enjoy cruising the country roads at 50mph or so, then she doesn't deserve to be on the bike.
I've had my Sportster up to 98mph (it wouldn't go any faster, no matter how hard i tried), and I had my FatBoy Lo up to 108 when i first got it just to see if it would do it.. scared the **** out of me, not to mention turned me in to a giant parachute.. I have no need and certainly no desire to go that fast again.. and if I have a woman on the back of my bike, her safety is my primary concern..and if she can't enjoy cruising the country roads at 50mph or so, then she doesn't deserve to be on the bike.
Cruiser
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From: Pacific Northwest
If it happened so someone in my family I sure wouldn't want you on the jury when the irresponsible rider (if he were to survive) is charged with reckless manslaughter.
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From: Honah Lee
It's their choice? Seriously? So if it was your sister or your daughter (or your wife) that was killed on the back of a bike going 125+ mph, she should be held accountable because she got on the back of the bike by her own "choice"? You would feel that the rider was not at all being irresponsible for going that fast with a passenger? In most states, those kinds of speeds qualify as reckless driving.
If it happened so someone in my family I sure wouldn't want you on the jury when the irresponsible rider (if he were to survive) is charged with reckless manslaughter.
If it happened so someone in my family I sure wouldn't want you on the jury when the irresponsible rider (if he were to survive) is charged with reckless manslaughter.
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From: 40 miles Northeast of Indy..
Yeah..to answer the original question.. do a google search for some modified TC96's.. with a good tune, a good set of cams (Usually the Andrews 37H, or the Woods T6-6 / Woods 555's), get the head work done (open up the breathers).. the numbers will be comparable to the 103's, and in some cases surpass them.. the SE204's are a good cam and will produce low to mid-range HP and Torque, but if you want to jump on it on the highway, then look for the SE255's or something that produce more torque in the 3500-5500 RPM range. I told myself im going to wait until i have like 15000 miles on my TC96b before i do cams on it..and im probably going Andrews 37h or the Woods 555s.
I've had my Sportster up to 98mph (it wouldn't go any faster, no matter how hard i tried), and I had my FatBoy Lo up to 108 when i first got it just to see if it would do it.. scared the **** out of me, not to mention turned me in to a giant parachute.. I have no need and certainly no desire to go that fast again.. and if I have a woman on the back of my bike, her safety is my primary concern..and if she can't enjoy cruising the country roads at 50mph or so, then she doesn't deserve to be on the bike.
I've had my Sportster up to 98mph (it wouldn't go any faster, no matter how hard i tried), and I had my FatBoy Lo up to 108 when i first got it just to see if it would do it.. scared the **** out of me, not to mention turned me in to a giant parachute.. I have no need and certainly no desire to go that fast again.. and if I have a woman on the back of my bike, her safety is my primary concern..and if she can't enjoy cruising the country roads at 50mph or so, then she doesn't deserve to be on the bike.
The 255's,,, come on, they have their place but its not in a Bones ridden solo....
Really that's not a cam that would be in my picking list.. U want some down low stump pulling I'd for sure go SS 551 over the 255.
U want a cam that goo in LOW-MID and MID HIGH then I'd go for one with a Closing intake between 33-38.
Theirs a bunch of cams that does that.
*Andrews from better low TQ,,, the 21's, 26's 37's and last the 48's
* Crane,,,, 300, 310..
*Dave Mackey TC 510's
*Head Quarkers TC 500.
*S&S 551's and 510's
*SE 203's 204's. 211's, but the 211's really need a bump in Compression and R more mid to HIGH TQ'ers. Better on 88's with 5 speeds.
Then of course probably the best in Perf cams WOODS..
It has been said in here many time they can be harder on motors simply cause their ramp speed's are the fastest. But they will out perform most bolt in cams. All at a premium cost.
*Woods TW-6h and the new 555.. are good picks if U want one of these.
Almost any of these would make a good decent choice..
If Ur a middle weight person and ride solo, then the Andrews 37, crane 310, any of the DM, HQ's, or S&S 500 or 510's cams. SE's 204's or the woods TW-6H would be what I'd look at.
Also some Head Street porting and a good set of 2-1 Pipes with a good tuner and a good dyno and Ur done..
Should get at least 30% more Tq and Hp over stock across the board.
We be talking 100+lbs of TQ and high 90's HP... Which will take U past 100 in a heart beat compared to stock Stg1.
I choose the Andrews 26's, They are not the baddest boys on the streets. But they gave me 20% more power across the board than just the stg1 and stock cams.
Plus they are easy on the motor than other cams and cooled her down another 20 degrees.
Another plus it they give me 2-4 more miles per gallon.
Last edited by oct1949; Oct 10, 2011 at 06:25 PM.
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From: Michigan
Here's the dyno sheet for my Night Train with the SE 204 cams. It pulls like a freight train and will hit the rev limiter very quickly. 87.5 HP and 103.25 torque and the motor hasn't been opened up. I don't have any problem keeping up with the 103 Street Glides my friends ride.
That being said there are a lot of cars that will smoke you on the top end. Standing start you can kiss most of them goodbye
I have had it past 110, and top speed on the dyno was about 165 mph. I don't plan on matching it on the street.
That being said there are a lot of cars that will smoke you on the top end. Standing start you can kiss most of them goodbye
I have had it past 110, and top speed on the dyno was about 165 mph. I don't plan on matching it on the street.
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2011
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From: malibu
+1 on the Andrews 26s. That what I'm Runnin on my 95". I love em. Reliable power. Lo end torque. Like Oct said, not the baddest boys but shes pullin like a bitch on prom night thru Lo 3rd gear. Next up on my winter mods is something really wild with head work to match it.