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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 11:01 PM
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Lipos are extremely volatile so be very careful. I fly RC helicopters with them and had one instantly ignite my pocket and another one in my car and caught on fire. So with any sudden jarring or impact, be ready!!
These are a different type of lithium battery cell than your run of the mill lipo used in airsoft / RC applications, and the design is significantly more complex.

If your batteries are doing that then it means you are over driving them, not charging them correctly, or they became damaged internally and you kept using them- keep in mind that lipoly was not designed for RC use- because the casing is very soft. sudden jarring or impact does not do anything by itself. they are not like dynamite or nitro - when damaged and if overdriven or otherwise abused, they will vent gas and in extreme situations can ignite. the SAME thing can happen to Nimh or Nicad batteries.

Switch to batteries that are designed for the specific amperage draw rate, make sure the cells are balanced correctly and check the condition of the cells before use.
Read the rules on using lipoly batteries- I've been using them in airsoft and RC for some time and have never had one ignite. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209187

Again - this is all completely different than the LiPOFe4 battery cells used by Antigravity, Shorai and others for vehicle applications.
 

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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 11:25 PM
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I'm running the same battery that came in my bike. I use a battery tender in the winter of I'm off the bike for weeks or more. No problem yet. What made you guys go for the hipo batteries? Failure or just because?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 11:41 PM
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ive been running lipos for years now on my track only ducatis and never had no problems with them...way more cranking amps and a loss of 9lbs of unsprung weight..kinda useless in the harley world..lol but the performance and less maintance is the key plus you just need to balance them every so often with a dedicated charger for that brand of battery instead of running them on a tender..my track bikes will sit for months and always fires up with authority..my panigale r track bike is built to 198 rwhp and it cranks that baby right up......as for brands ive only used shorai/alien motion and all 7 of them work great,have had my shorai in my ducati hypermotard since 09 still working well
 
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cdonis
I'm running the same battery that came in my bike. I use a battery tender in the winter of I'm off the bike for weeks or more. No problem yet. What made you guys go for the hipo batteries? Failure or just because?
Kinda like Da-Rza said - less maintenance hassle, no need to leave it on a charger when sitting, don't need to replace it every couple years, always fires right up. you do need a lipofe-compatable charger but they are about the same cost as a decent regular charger. Antigravity batteries don't need a balance charger just one that correctly monitors voltage and charges based on the lipofe chemistry. some of the other lipofe batteries do need a specific balance charger and will have an extra 'balancer' wire connection.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 07:49 AM
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I will not use anything except these batteries on my motorcycles. they are hands down the best, most reliable batteries in the world. and they weigh nothing. that little battery has way more cranking juice than the HD or any other conventional battery. Not cheap though, but I can let my bike sit for a year and the battery will still fire the bike right up- they don't self discharge. I keep the small jumpers and the spare co2 tire filler in there because it fits and well ,you never know right?

this is the battery I have: Antigravity YTX12-24L Lithium PowerSport Batteries http://antigravitybatteries.com/batt...son-batteries/

I also keep one of their "personal" super tiny suckers in my truck under the seat, I used it once to start up a V8 Range Rover with a dead battery. fired it right up. LiPoFe batteries rock! http://shop.antigravitybatteries.com/micro-start-xp-3/
Once again, LA_Dog has found the best. I happen to have recently done a "user test" for AntiGravity, not for their powersport batteries, but for their "Microstart XP-10" battery for use as a power supply for a medical device I use, a CPAP, which I need in order to breathe when sleeping (google "Sleep Apnea").

A person with Sleep Apnea cannot normally do things like "go camping", because he or she needs a constant supply of slightly pressurized air in order to be able to sleep, so needs a constant and reliable power supply. All CPAP machines run on 120 volt power, but some also accept 12 volt power. The problem has always been finding a battery with the "right" combination of amp hours and reasonable portability. I had never been able to find one.

But the AntiGravity Microstart XP-10, which is only about 1" x 3" x 10", and weighs only a pound or two, can actually power my CPAP for THREE NIGHTS before needing a recharge! It has enabled me to do stuff that was out of the question before.

GREAT product line.

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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LA_Dog
Antigravity batteries don't need a balance charger just one that correctly monitors voltage and charges based on the lipofe chemistry. some of the other lipofe batteries do need a specific balance charger and will have an extra 'balancer' wire connection.
This is because AntiGravity batteries include "battery management" circuitry inside their cases. That's one reason they are so costly.

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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 08:07 AM
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Hey Jim and Dog

Why don't u start a seperate thread about rechargable batteries or even about Sleep Apnea
 
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point taken- that all went OT pretty quick. the part numbers and links I posted will be applicable to the Breakout if anyone is interested in using a LiPoFe4 battery on their bike.
 

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Originally Posted by LA_Dog
point taken- that all went OT pretty quick. the part numbers and links I posted will be applicable to the Breakout if anyone is interested in using a LiPoFe4 battery on their bike.
Not really off topic. I was making the point that AntiGravity batteries are pretty well designed and capable batteries. If their SMALLER versions can run CPAP machines and start V8 engines, they are probably more than good enough for very reliable performance on our Breakouts.

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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LA_Dog
These are a different type of lithium battery cell than your run of the mill lipo used in airsoft / RC applications, and the design is significantly more complex.

If your batteries are doing that then it means you are over driving them, not charging them correctly, or they became damaged internally and you kept using them- keep in mind that lipoly was not designed for RC use- because the casing is very soft. sudden jarring or impact does not do anything by itself. they are not like dynamite or nitro - when damaged and if overdriven or otherwise abused, they will vent gas and in extreme situations can ignite. the SAME thing can happen to Nimh or Nicad batteries.

Switch to batteries that are designed for the specific amperage draw rate, make sure the cells are balanced correctly and check the condition of the cells before use.
Read the rules on using lipoly batteries- I've been using them in airsoft and RC for some time and have never had one ignite. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209187

Again - this is all completely different than the LiPOFe4 battery cells used by Antigravity, Shorai and others for vehicle applications.
Crashing didn't help .. lol
 
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