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Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2013
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From: Kobe, Japan
You can make the 96" into a pretty strong motor- headwork, 10.5:1 static comp, good torque cam that sits in the 2500-4500 range and 9.4:1 operating compression. Or even better, turn it into a 107" with new jugs, pistons, heads, cam, 50mm throttle body and 4.9 SE injectors, high lift mid-range torque cam, operating compression around 9.5:1 - you'll get in the 110hp/120tq range if set up correctly, and quite reliable. combine that 107" with the 30/70 pulleys and it will be a rocket. I'd take a well built 107" over a 110" any day of the week.
All parts are more expensive here than in US and shipping from US is also expensive.
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From: 90210
go see Fuel Moto's 107" kits http://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28617-1...-bore-kit.html
or check out AMS Moto Machine, very high quality 107" kits at very good price. http://www.amsmotomachine.com/index....p-harley-parts
the added expense of the 107" kit is upgrading the 46mm throttle body with 3.6 injectors, to 50mm and larger 4.9 injectors. the stock 3.6 injectors are only good for 100hp maximum and the 46mm throttle body won't flow enough air for a 107" with performance heads.
If you have a shop there that does throttle body boring, you can buy a used stock 46mm throttle body off ebay for about $50 - they are all the same 46mm throttle body for 2007-up softail / dyna non touring bikes. have it bored out to 50mm, about $100 in labor, and add a set of SE 4.9 injectors, $120 / pair. If you can't get that done then you can buy an aftermarket 51mm throttlebody from Horsepower, Inc. complete with 4.9 injectors for about $500.
You'll need better cams something like a T-Man 625 http://tmanperformance.com/Cams/t-man-625/ or equivalent specification from Woods, Andrews. $300
Gaskets, oil, etc another couple hundred.
Last edited by LA_Dog; Mar 29, 2016 at 09:29 AM.
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 145
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From: Kobe, Japan
$20k? LOL, no way. I'd budget $3k. A lot of the cost depends on whether you do the work yourself or pay a shop. but the kits themselves are not that bad on price.
go see Fuel Moto's 107" kits http://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28617-1...-bore-kit.html
or check out AMS Moto Machine, very high quality 107" kits at very good price. http://www.amsmotomachine.com/index....p-harley-parts
the added expense of the 107" kit is upgrading the 46mm throttle body with 3.6 injectors, to 50mm and larger 4.9 injectors. the stock 3.6 injectors are only good for 100hp maximum and the 46mm throttle body won't flow enough air for a 107" with performance heads.
If you have a shop there that does throttle body boring, you can buy a used stock 46mm throttle body off ebay for about $50 - they are all the same 46mm throttle body for 2007-up softail / dyna non touring bikes. have it bored out to 50mm, about $100 in labor, and add a set of SE 4.9 injectors, $120 / pair. If you can't get that done then you can buy an aftermarket 51mm throttlebody from Horsepower, Inc. complete with 4.9 injectors for about $500.
You'll need better cams something like a T-Man 625 http://tmanperformance.com/Cams/t-man-625/ or equivalent specification from Woods, Andrews. $300
Gaskets, oil, etc another couple hundred.
go see Fuel Moto's 107" kits http://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28617-1...-bore-kit.html
or check out AMS Moto Machine, very high quality 107" kits at very good price. http://www.amsmotomachine.com/index....p-harley-parts
the added expense of the 107" kit is upgrading the 46mm throttle body with 3.6 injectors, to 50mm and larger 4.9 injectors. the stock 3.6 injectors are only good for 100hp maximum and the 46mm throttle body won't flow enough air for a 107" with performance heads.
If you have a shop there that does throttle body boring, you can buy a used stock 46mm throttle body off ebay for about $50 - they are all the same 46mm throttle body for 2007-up softail / dyna non touring bikes. have it bored out to 50mm, about $100 in labor, and add a set of SE 4.9 injectors, $120 / pair. If you can't get that done then you can buy an aftermarket 51mm throttlebody from Horsepower, Inc. complete with 4.9 injectors for about $500.
You'll need better cams something like a T-Man 625 http://tmanperformance.com/Cams/t-man-625/ or equivalent specification from Woods, Andrews. $300
Gaskets, oil, etc another couple hundred.
Since I need a mechanic each time, I guess I'll have to pay X 2-3 of what you have to pay, so I should focus on the pulleys and enjoy that upgrade first.
To do the engine upgrade to a 107 I'll need to figure out the rules here. Bikes need a Shaken ( MOT) every 2 year.
Thanks
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From: 90210
LA I will never get any sleep if I continue to listen to you ! Man I wish I had your knowledge and skills.
Since I need a mechanic each time, I guess I'll have to pay X 2-3 of what you have to pay, so I should focus on the pulleys and enjoy that upgrade first.
To do the engine upgrade to a 107 I'll need to figure out the rules here. Bikes need a Shaken ( MOT) every 2 year.
Thanks
Since I need a mechanic each time, I guess I'll have to pay X 2-3 of what you have to pay, so I should focus on the pulleys and enjoy that upgrade first.
To do the engine upgrade to a 107 I'll need to figure out the rules here. Bikes need a Shaken ( MOT) every 2 year.
Thanks
just kidding- you know how it is, the mods never stop. you'll be pretty happy with the pulley upgrades and that will hold you for a little while.
So what are the details on the "Shaken"? Is it like a safety / legal check, a smog check? Just curious. I grew up in Hawaii and we had this stupid "safety check" on all vehicles every year. still going on today. every place has it's different rules, some sillier than others.
Cruiser
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From: Kobe, Japan
Awwww come on brother, it's only money- and I see that nice 911 in the background of your sig pic.
just kidding- you know how it is, the mods never stop. you'll be pretty happy with the pulley upgrades and that will hold you for a little while.
So what are the details on the "Shaken"? Is it like a safety / legal check, a smog check? Just curious. I grew up in Hawaii and we had this stupid "safety check" on all vehicles every year. still going on today. every place has it's different rules, some sillier than others.
just kidding- you know how it is, the mods never stop. you'll be pretty happy with the pulley upgrades and that will hold you for a little while.
So what are the details on the "Shaken"? Is it like a safety / legal check, a smog check? Just curious. I grew up in Hawaii and we had this stupid "safety check" on all vehicles every year. still going on today. every place has it's different rules, some sillier than others.
For the Shaken they check everything for safety, noise, pollution and if you change the engine size you will have to register it again, what is also VERY costly (about 1000US ) was the answer from the Stealership.
I'll have to install my stock pipes and stock map before the Shaken so yeah its a real hassle.
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From: Stuttgart, Germany
Too many bills to pay, thats the problem
For the Shaken they check everything for safety, noise, pollution and if you change the engine size you will have to register it again, what is also VERY costly (about 1000US ) was the answer from the Stealership.
I'll have to install my stock pipes and stock map before the Shaken so yeah its a real hassle.
For the Shaken they check everything for safety, noise, pollution and if you change the engine size you will have to register it again, what is also VERY costly (about 1000US ) was the answer from the Stealership.
I'll have to install my stock pipes and stock map before the Shaken so yeah its a real hassle.
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 145
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From: Kobe, Japan
I'll also have to register the apes next time.
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Too many bills to pay, thats the problem
For the Shaken they check everything for safety, noise, pollution and if you change the engine size you will have to register it again, what is also VERY costly (about 1000US ) was the answer from the Stealership.
I'll have to install my stock pipes and stock map before the Shaken so yeah its a real hassle.
For the Shaken they check everything for safety, noise, pollution and if you change the engine size you will have to register it again, what is also VERY costly (about 1000US ) was the answer from the Stealership.
I'll have to install my stock pipes and stock map before the Shaken so yeah its a real hassle.
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From: 90210
oh well gotta just suck it up and go with the flow right?