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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LA_Dog
EagleRay- sorry to hear about the bad battery. always good timing eh? ;p

you said you left the ignition on but bike turned off for 20 mins? if I understand that correctly, that is a lot of drain to put on a battery, lights and ecm left on for 20 mins. maybe it was good you 'stress tested' the battery now vs having it leave you stranded on the road later.

rule of thumb I replace regular AGM bike batteries every 2 years. they are really only good for 3 tops. anything over 2 that is a crap shoot. However right now I'm running a lithuim poly battery (AntiGravity), that thing can sit for months and not lose a drop of charge. but honestly for the cost of one lithium battery I could buy three quality regular batteries. lol

Like HKMark I have an AntiGravity XP1 mini pack and drop it into the solo bag. damn thing will jump start a V8 truck. great little gadget to have.
Yeah, leaving the ignition on certainly drew quite some power. But I expected the battery to be in good condition and fully charged due to having just been picked up from the dealer. Learned my lesson now. But as the head mechanic said "you never know what the true condition of the battery is".

I'm sure considering getting one of those mini jump start battery packs.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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,,,,,,,I'm sure considering getting one of those mini jump start battery packs.
If you do, look into ordering the heavy gauge SAE adapter harness that goes with it or else make one up if you have the components and tools. Taking your seat off to boost your bike is an unnecessary PITA but those Antigravity boosters will probably fry your "tender" harness if you plug into that.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 12:51 PM
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If you do, look into ordering the heavy gauge SAE adapter harness that goes with it or else make one up if you have the components and tools. Taking your seat off to boost your bike is an unnecessary PITA but those Antigravity boosters will probably fry your "tender" harness if you plug into that.
Mark, thanks for that hint....possibly saved me some money for restoring the tender harness
 
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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nostradamus74
2013
CVO 110" and BO 103", ABS optional.

2014
Same as 2013, all models ABS equipped.

2015
Only BO 103", some mods on front brakes diameter and master cylinder

2016
CVO Pro Street 110" and 103" Hi Output BO,
Standard BO has TBW implemented and HO feature, basically a more sporty cam

No 117" BO ever produced.

This is what I remember...
Thank you. This plus the HD web site was just what I was looking for.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by EagleRay
Mark, thanks for that hint....possibly saved me some money for restoring the tender harness
Yeh it's not so much you'll fry the harness, but you'll definitely melt the puny safety fuse and you'll not be getting full amperage to the starter. too much resistance. if the fuse does not melt, well then yeh you'll have some toaster wires heating up! Never jump a bike through smaller than the gauge of wire going from battery to starter (and that is pretty large).

You should not need to jump a bike often, but when you do:
>pull seat
>positive terminal of the xp1 to the positive on the battery,
>negative of the xp1 to frame ground (not the battery negative).

You're pulling a lot of amps quickly when jumping so please do not try it through a battery tender harness - even a heavy gauge one - it is still not thick enough gauge.
there is a reason the xp1 comes with large clamps and very short wire for the jump start function.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 02:28 AM
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Thank you. This plus the HD web site was just what I was looking for.
Some overseas models of Breakout, all years, received a 96" motor instead of the 103". Thailand, for example.

Other models had the 103" but received different rear drive pulley combinations, usually much taller gearing to help meet stricter noise or pollution laws. Japan is one example.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LA_Dog
Some overseas models of Breakout, all years, received a 96" motor instead of the 103". Thailand, for example.

Other models had the 103" but received different rear drive pulley combinations, usually much taller gearing to help meet stricter noise or pollution laws. Japan is one example.
Yes I had to buy the 96" in 2014 Didnt do any research since I liked the bike when I saw it in the shop and bought it ! I thought a Harley was a Harley and had no idea abut the different set up for different countries.

They did sell the CVO 110" but all that crome made my eyes hurt ! Well, still happy with the setup but wish I had the 110" on my bike...... 2016 Breakout comes with 103" tho !
 
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LA_Dog
Yeh it's not so much you'll fry the harness, but you'll definitely melt the puny safety fuse and you'll not be getting full amperage to the starter. too much resistance. if the fuse does not melt, well then yeh you'll have some toaster wires heating up! Never jump a bike through smaller than the gauge of wire going from battery to starter (and that is pretty large).

You should not need to jump a bike often, but when you do:
>pull seat
>positive terminal of the xp1 to the positive on the battery,
>negative of the xp1 to frame ground (not the battery negative).

You're pulling a lot of amps quickly when jumping so please do not try it through a battery tender harness - even a heavy gauge one - it is still not thick enough gauge.
there is a reason the xp1 comes with large clamps and very short wire for the jump start function.
you're absolutely right, but it is worth mentioning that you can get the bike going through the tender harness, with a boost box, if you don't mind waiting. basically you just have to hook it up and let the boost box charge up your battery a bit, but make sure to disconnect before trying to start the bike, or as you said, toaster wire! I wouldn't try it unless the bike was ALMOST starting, but won't quite kick
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Yes I had to buy the 96" in 2014 Didnt do any research since I liked the bike when I saw it in the shop and bought it ! I thought a Harley was a Harley and had no idea abut the different set up for different countries.

They did sell the CVO 110" but all that crome made my eyes hurt ! Well, still happy with the setup but wish I had the 110" on my bike...... 2016 Breakout comes with 103" tho !
funny you say that about the CVO, I will admit I know nothing about the CVO model, but I was at the dealership last week, and they had one on the floor, perceivably the 2016, and it had ZERO chrome. looked very similar to my bike, but no chrome, everything was gunmetal, or a metallic brown. REALLY nice colors!

 
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by weezl
you're absolutely right, but it is worth mentioning that you can get the bike going through the tender harness, with a boost box, if you don't mind waiting. basically you just have to hook it up and let the boost box charge up your battery a bit, but make sure to disconnect before trying to start the bike, or as you said, toaster wire! I wouldn't try it unless the bike was ALMOST starting, but won't quite kick


funny you say that about the CVO, I will admit I know nothing about the CVO model, but I was at the dealership last week, and they had one on the floor, perceivably the 2016, and it had ZERO chrome. looked very similar to my bike, but no chrome, everything was gunmetal, or a metallic brown. REALLY nice colors!

Yup- good point. if you're just going to hook up the boost pack and let it bleed some charge back in to the main batt, then no problem with any size wire on the tender hookup. there is little to no amperage strictly voltage. just no cranking hooked up that way, it's the high amperage draw of cranking that fries small wires.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Lindosan
Yes I had to buy the 96" in 2014 Didnt do any research since I liked the bike when I saw it in the shop and bought it ! I thought a Harley was a Harley and had no idea abut the different set up for different countries.

They did sell the CVO 110" but all that crome made my eyes hurt ! Well, still happy with the setup but wish I had the 110" on my bike...... 2016 Breakout comes with 103" tho !
You can make the 96" into a pretty strong motor- headwork, 10.5:1 static comp, good torque cam that sits in the 2500-4500 range and 9.4:1 operating compression. Or even better, turn it into a 107" with new jugs, pistons, heads, cam, 50mm throttle body and 4.9 SE injectors, high lift mid-range torque cam, operating compression around 9.5:1 - you'll get in the 110hp/120tq range if set up correctly, and quite reliable. combine that 107" with the 30/70 pulleys and it will be a rocket. I'd take a well built 107" over a 110" any day of the week.
 
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